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  1. 4 points
    Quik

    Keaton Louth Rule

    ^^^ @Beketov and I (and @Will) aren’t here to screw anyone over. When we came up with the punishment (through the BOG, so not just us) it was with the hope that it would be a deterrent to overplaying starters, not a hope that we could gleefully hand out punishment that will affect teams. The rules in place now are harsh for a reason, and everyone was apprised of the consequences should they break them. Like I’ve said, I can understand frustration in being hit with the penalty, but it’s not like people weren’t warned, or that the players on the teams couldn’t have kept track as well. Are we supposed to turn a blind eye, literally the first season after the rules were clarified? At the end of the day, this isn’t anyone’s full time job, so of course there won’t be a “perfect world” scenario in most situations - there rarely is. All we can do is try to find the best balance we can. So, rather than complaining about how unfair the punishment is, the solution is simple: don’t get to a point where punishment needs to be doled out.
  2. 4 points
    If Stopko isn't a first ballot HoF after this, idk what he needs to do then lol.
  3. 3 points
    troy

    Keaton Louth Rule

    from what i could gather in this thread, neither grammar nor logic are exactly his strong suits
  4. 3 points
    Yo like for real. Did you see this shit? Technically Halifax loses on a 7th goal, even though their goalie only gave up 6. Gritty scored an empty netter, to put us up by two and then Halifax freeking scored 2 goals in the last minute to tie it, only to lose it within the first 3 minutes of overtime. Super silly game, as silly as it goes I'd say. VHLM playoffs them harsh momentum swings. Where any stretch of a minute or two can literally change the course of an entire game forever.
  5. 3 points
    eaglesfan036

    Teams I want to play for

    Teams I don't want to play for: 1) Davos 2) Moscow
  6. 2 points
    Sonnet

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Thank you @Nykonax for a summary of this thread, in meme form.
  7. 2 points
    DollarAndADream

    Keaton Louth Rule

    I think something that's been pretty damn clear since I came to the VHL years ago is that nobody is really power hungry here. Usually those guys don't last long in the upper management in the VHL. Beketov, Quik, Will, and the rest are some of the most laid back guys you could have to run a league. This rule has been around a long time. When I was a GM a few seasons ago, I used to check when there was like 10 games left how many teams didn't have their backups played yet and I'd send out a PM to the Commissioners as a reminder. Then sometimes even the simmer would throw in the backup to prevent it from happening. That wasn't even something I needed to do. Also games being missed by a backup meant the regular goalie played more. Those games impact statistics for the regular season, which also goes into awards and the Hall of Fame considerations. Sometimes one goalie will beat out another in votes because of barely any percentage, which those 8 games will affect.
  8. 2 points
    Beketov

    Keaton Louth Rule

    1. We’re not micromanaging the teams, that’s the whole point. What would you like us to do, post updates for them every week to show if they are doing what they are supposed to be doing or not? It is part of their job and they all know it. We can hardly say “hey, you haven’t played your backup enough” every single week when we have no way of knowing what their plan is and have the same visible information they do. What I will say is that perhaps we could mention it in the trade deadline thread. Just a quick update on where teams are in relation to the rule so they know a few weeks ahead of time if they are in trouble. 2. The rule exists so that teams with an active backup don’t get hurt playing that backup. You take it out the advantage goes to teams who don’t use cap space on a backup and thus fewer goalie jobs then we already have. That doesn’t make sense. It sounds fine for a team with a CPU to say they shouldn’t have to play him but it needs to be universal so that means teams with an active should be able to bench him all season which isn’t fair. 3. As I’ve mentioned several times, punishment for next season could easily punish a team too much or not at all depending on the situation. Having it be this season is the fairest outcome. They broke the rules this season, they pay the price this season. Same as Helsinki did yet none of their players are complaining about it. I don’t understand how this is turning into you guys thinking it’s some kind of corruption of power grab thing. These rules were listed prior to the season with the list of punishments. It was all there for everyone to see and no one had an issue with it until their team was involved. But please, tell me more about how I’m biased. I don’t understand how your GM has accepted the ruling and accepted the blame but you guys are still putting it on the league as if we arbitrarily decided to screw you. There’s no conspiracy, there’s no power hungry elite. Hell, @Quik was punished too. All I see is people fine with the rules until those rules bite them.
  9. 2 points
    eaglesfan036

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Well it's been a while since we've had a good shit show so this has been entertaining My favorite part was comparing starting QUE G to the atom bombs being dropped on Japan Also, Que G > Arthur
  10. 1 point
    BladeMaiden

    Kandee Cain Interview

    Kandee Cain @SlashACM Interview. Saskatoon made a spot for you, where you surprised when you entered the league? Surprised didn’t get contacted by more teams because everyone should want a piece of Kandee. I feel like I am a great goalie and I’m gonna make all the boys sad they didn’t get my digits. What team are you hoping to get drafted to? Ottawa, I’m just kidding Phili because they are going to be the best team. The blue really goes with my eyes and they are sure to win with me on their roster. Are you dating someone? I dumped Walter Clements he wasn’t man enough for me. If you think you are worthy you know where to find me 😉 What is your workout regimen? Thighs and glutes mostly because they need to be nice and toned for on the ice and in the bed. I can a watermelon with my thighs Mellon Most famous boyfriend? I don’t have boyfriends just boy toys. My brother knows a lot of famous people in the SHL and I’ve introduced myself to many 😉 Kandee you name is sweet as sugar, are you more sweet or spicy? I’m whatever gets me further.
  11. 1 point
    That's waaaaay above my pay grade and clearance level
  12. 1 point
    Nice way of letting us know you snooze you lose, we posted too late lol @flyersfan1453 if they didn't want us claiming late they really should lock the post on time... lol
  13. 1 point
    Beaviss

    Keaton Louth Rule

    correction: Iseult/ Palo I accepted my fate
  14. 1 point
    and that 6 shot win by ottawa lol
  15. 1 point
    Quik

    Keaton Louth Rule

    @Josh. that’s pretty much exactly what it is though lol. Playoff teams are punished with playoff starts. Non playoff teams are punished with picks/cap space. The only reason that’s not explicitly stated is for extreme circumstances. Everyone knew the rules and that they would be enforced, especially Beaviss and I, being part of the discussion of implementing them.
  16. 1 point
    Josh

    Keaton Louth Rule

    This was an absolute rollercoaster. At the end of the day, all of our player's careers are left in the hands of the GM they've signed with. However this wasn't an intentional thing and it's really just an unfortunate circumstance. Beav acknowledged his fault and apologized and realistically that's as far as it needed to go. Even if it was a player's last season, there is always next season for you as a member of the community. I would think a potential rule change might be helpful in avoiding this in the future. A logical solution would be: if possible, fulfill the requirement in the playoffs like we did here. If not possible as the team doesn't make it or gets knocked out, picks/financials. I apologize as I realize this has gone on long enough. Just didn't want us to lose sight of why were all here to begin with.
  17. 1 point
    STLZACH

    Hi

    I was, then they left and I switched to our then sworn enemies. The patriots. That went well.
  18. 1 point
    Victor

    Pod Cast Press Conference (PCPC)

    1. Mate, you carried those old farts more than anything. I mean at this point we all need to pull our finger out and slap Helsinki but you should be doing just fine. 2. Don't stop working. You have to be very unlucky to hit high TPE levels and not have some memorable achievements to take away from your career. Obviously everyone would love to get the HOF call, but that's impossible - but it's still perfectly reasonable to expect a great season or two and a cup. 3. Either of my two main VHL loves: Calgary and Davos. They were in the midst of contending cycles when I was drafted so there was never a chance but I'm sure I will make it back one day. 4. Bold assumption there that you know my favourite (it's not hockey ). Second is a bit of a left-field choice; biathlon. 5. Ottawa, gotta be a fanboy for this one.
  19. 1 point
    Victor

    Keaton Louth Rule

    But how can we be the little brother if we're older than everyone else. 😕
  20. 1 point
    One more win! We can do it!
  21. 1 point
    Bitch I don’t have garbage shots
  22. 1 point
    Same SV% as Kriketers
  23. 1 point
    When did a save % over .900 become a bad thing? I would say I had a good season and I am proud of Brick.
  24. 1 point
    This not allowing us to add TPE past 200 is bullshit
  25. 1 point
    BOOMCHENKO™

    Drafting of a Slade

    And you'll be at 84. DONE!
  26. 1 point
  27. 1 point
    Holy shit lmao. Carles with a 4 point night ooo
  28. 1 point
    Beaviss

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Im breaking my silence.... This ^ Agreed with everything said here.
  29. 1 point
    majesiu

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Conditional punishments are the worst idea, it will always deservedly spark controversy. Having gazillion ways to update lines is yet another bad idea, why just not use a newer version of STHS and let GMs upload the lines instead of using mails, or at the very least can't you create shared Gmail account for that purpose anyway if you need backup simmer taking over, so no line update get missed? Everybody defends their point without seeing serious flaws and mistakes, that could've been easily avoided. Punishing players and the team for the organizational mess is laughable and only sparks more controversy when you decide punishments on your discretion. Especially funny is that many people talking in this thread and trying to negate the magnitude of this punishment were on the opposing side and benefited from this ruling, the claim that worse in every aspect goalie helped the team, in a losing series, after all, is one of the worst I've ever seen. I understand this rule might be needed with an overflow of goalies (which could be easily stopped if you started tracking players and needed positions in a position tracker or gave small red warning when creating the player), still as every rule should be crystal clear, because your gray area is apparently only about punishment and not about mitigating circumstances, that were certainly here. Imo, much better choice would be to eliminate bot goalies altogether and give backups even bigger role if you have more than 8 active goalies in the VHL it's a no brainer, and you certainly have enough non retired goalies, with portal showing 70 non retired ones.
  30. 1 point
    Seattle and Riga, that’s all we have heard all year concerning who was going to win the cup. It was a circle jerk between the two all year long for first place leaving everyone else in the dust. Both teams have loaded squads who have been turning it up a notch all year. Now that playoffs are here fans are left wondering what happened to the teams that they have been watching all year. They are both currently in a 3-2 series hole but don't count them out yet as they are both very strong teams. Toronto squeaked into the playoffs after a strong second half of the year. They have been a goal scoring machine despite being dramatically outshot by their opponent in these playoffs. The Titans have been on a hot streak after starting the season off slow. The GM made a lot of acquisitions in the off season and took a while to get the lines right, but he seems to have found a winning formula. It is the year of the pig in China, but will it be the year of the underdog in the VHL?? Only time will tell if we will get the finals matchup no one saw coming.
  31. 1 point
    Devise

    Semi-Finals 2 - Game 5: Helsinki vs Riga

    I think at this point, Riga winning is actually the upset.
  32. 1 point
    I'm not disputing you there. It's why I just went with a team that I thought had playoff strengths, because in the playoffs all you need is some sort of edge and then you never know. I am being seriously honest when I say that I believe that any single one of Quebec, Helsinki, Riga, Toronto and Seattle could win it all this year. You could run the sim 100 times, and you'd get instances where each time wins it all. I think the more times you run that, the more the numbers would reflect a Seattle or Riga win. But I don't think it's consistent enough to say they'd each win 3 or 4 times out of 10. It's more like they'd each win the heavy majority out of 100. But at some point you'll run into weirdness of Helsinki winning several seasons in the row, or Quebec for example. It's a big reason why we needed to expand to be honest. It was evident even before we discussed it. League parity right now is turning into NHL levels, where it's pretty much make the playoffs and then see what happens. It has sometimes been like that, but usually you could split up the competing teams. This was the first season where I legitimately gave every team a shot at any series in every playoffs. Quebec almost upset us with QUE G in net. Teams are just way closer this season than I think people wanted to admit.
  33. 1 point
    Whenever I’ve had the better goalie, I lose. When I had the lesser goalie, well.. ask @DollarAndADream what happened. STHS picks and chooses.
  34. 1 point
    Kirby

    No game time this year for Kirbsson

    He was a late arrival to the VHLM but it seems the season is over before it even began for Swedish new boy Maximilian Kirbsson. Saskatoon are out of the play offs, and so, to the dismay of fans around Canada, Kirbsson will not feature at all this season! Something interesting to track will be where his future actually lies. A dispersion draft that is upcoming means that Kirbsson may never end up taking to the ice at Saskatoon... quite a crazy thought considering! We managed to speak to him briefly after practice: ”Yeh I’m very disappointed. Coach told me that I was slated to be starter at Center, and I was ready to go man. But hey, the league decided to block it, and so be it. I will live to fight another day and I’ll definitely be pumped for next season, where ever that may be”. We also went on to ask Kirbsson about what he will be working on this off season: ”I’ll definitely be trying to improve defensively. It’s obviously important to be able to defend better to be an all arounder. Other than that, I guess a bit of scoring too. Everyone knows me as an assist king but being a dual threat Center is definitely one of my main aims going forward”.
  35. 1 point
    Fuck me. Fucking Stopko is killing us. We’re dominating in shots every game.
  36. 1 point
    Fear me and my PUNS
  37. 1 point
  38. 1 point
    Beketov

    Keaton Louth Rule

    If you honestly think that then there can be no reasonable discussion on the matter. @Will, nor I, nor anyone else makes a decision for the sake of it, let alone to show how big and strong we are. In a case like this we have a day at best to decide on something before the playoffs need to begin. This isn’t a time where we can spend ages going over the scenarios. Rather we follow the rules in place and make it clean. Quebec missed 3 games, Helsinki missed 1. This Quebec plays the backup 3 games and Helsinki plays 1. It’s fair whether you agree with it or not. You can disagree with the choice all you want, and I know you’re capable of arguing in circles forever; but do not sit there and say that we made a decision intentionally to hurt a team (with how the regular season went I would have gladly faced Quebec over Toronto so why would I influence it the other way?) or for fun. We make every decision for the best of the league. If you don’t want to deal with the punishment then make sure that you’re on top of your GM to get the backup games in. I’ve checked plenty of times with @Banackock to see how our backup games are progressing. I used to do the same with @DollarAndADream. Players aren’t completely helpless. That’s excessive and you know it. Rules can clearly be put in place (and are) to avoid it without having to replace a bunch of GM’s. I suggest you take the high road like your GM has an accept that a mistake was made and the punishment was delivered for it. If GM’s do as they are supposed to (As 6/8 did this season plus a minor technical glitch for the 7th) this won’t ever need to be a problem.
  39. 1 point
    Beketov

    Keaton Louth Rule

    I’m fine having that added to the trade deadline. Honestly though all the other GM’s has no problem keeping track (Quik’s mistake came from a slip up in his last sent lines) and even Beaviss. Came from miss-reading stats. However it’s not hard to add. Like I said, they should be keeping track but it’s easy enough to add to the post as a reminder. Come from the guy who loves depth it’s amazing to me that you’d say teams shouldn’t have active players but I digress. There are cap clauses in that make backups cheaper and an active backup will basically always play better than a CPU. Had Quebec had one maybe this wouldn’t have even been as big a deal. If a GM wants to risk their backup games by having a CPU instead of rewarding an active member that’s their choice but that doesn’t mean we will give them extra incentive to do it. Punishing the team is punishing the GM. Punishing Beaviss’ players would result in a punishment for his other team when they did nothing wrong and it violates the whole point of GM and player being separate entities. The Louth’s shouldn’t be punished because of a team made mistake by @Beaviss. As for why not a pick, it’s quite simple. Let’s say a team is in a close battle for the playoffs. They decide, “I don’t care about that pick, we’re gunning for it this season” and leave their starter in all season. Not only does that starter now have an unfair advantage stat wise but that team has an unfair advantage in regards to making the playoffs because they have a better player in for more of the season. Now a team that might have made the playoffs is out because they followed the rules and their opponent didn’t. The fairest method is to punish the team that broke the rules in order to make the playoffs during those playoffs. And yes, these rules were thought over (and fought over) for a long time. Anyone from the BOG can tell you that, we spent ages going over them to try and find a black and white way we could write it but ultimately there’s is no singular punishment that works in every situation which is why we left it open. For the most part it will fall to “if you make the playoffs, playoff starts will be taken. If you don’t, draft picks” but there is wiggle room as their needs to be with anything that can vary so wildly. I’m not saying everyone needs to accept it but calling out the league for being on a power trip because we followed through on punishment as we said we would is going a little far. I get the disappointment but ultimately the rules were broken and Quebec needed to pay for it, end of story. It’s lovely to say the best players should play in the playoffs but that does t always get to be the case. In the NHL if you get suspended in the last game of the season and you’re the team’s leading scorer do they just decide you get to play in the playoffs? No. You broke the rules, you pay the penalty. We didn’t hide these rules and arbitrarily decide to implement them only after they were broken. It’s always been a rule for 64 seasons and it’s been known all season that there would be punishments for it.
  40. 1 point
    Advantage

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Man you guys sitting here saying they are punishing one player when he also got to start more games in the regular season...you know the main criteria they look at for Hall of Fame and such.
  41. 1 point
    Eudaldkp

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Bruh I love Beaviss and I've talked with him about this in the Discord, he perfectly understands he's in the wrong here and no one is piling on him. In fact it's only Arthur (and Bush but he's just throwing salt in the wound) shitting on him. It's just a sim league, but there needs to be rules too. The point of the league is having fun, and there needs to be some regulation. If there is a rule that 6 teams follow but the other 2 teams don't, there needs to be some sort of punishment for the teams that don't follow it or else it would be unfair. It's pretty simple.
  42. 1 point
    Beketov

    Teams I want to play for

    Teams I want to retire early from* Seriously though, two team list. Bold move.
  43. 1 point
    jRuutu

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Fair ruling, fair punishment - lot´s of comedians in this league. Equally fair to say that we could have been playing better offensively if Arthur was in net? No slobby rebounds that kept the play going, no penalties that could have been caused soon after bot failed to control the puck etc etc? Or why teams decide to play their bot goalies only the minimum required during the season if they are this good?
  44. 1 point
    jRuutu

    Keaton Louth Rule

    That is kinda funny, no? Not looking for reasons to punish teams, but at the same time don´t really go out of your way to make sure they don´t happen either - wait all the way to the end to see what is going on? And cheating, please - 22 point difference to next team behind us. And no, it does not make sense. It just does not. Backup goalie rule, a bot goalie played 5 out of 8 games in a playoff race where Quebec had 22 point lead to the next team in the standings, the three games made absolutely 0 difference on the team behind us making it or not. Instead of you guys in the league office making the best of the best play and handing out punishment for next season like any normal and reasonable league would, you decided to do something else.
  45. 1 point
    jRuutu

    Keaton Louth Rule

    How about Rayne and Jones? Two defenders who are retiring, their last chance in playoffs sabotaged by individuals who are drunk with power and who run around on their high horse and dish out whatever penalties they feel is right. Is that fair? How about other players in the team who put in the work to be active in this league, but their chances in playoffs were sabotaged? I don´t care what you people say on what could have happend and what happened with the actual games and the numbers, I want the number one goalie in net over a bot goalie in the playoffs. This punishment reminds me of how someones big brother will not tell to the parents about what the little brother did as long as he does something stupid, ´hey little bro, go roll on dog shit or I´m telling´, the big brother gets to have his fun and little brother looks equally silly with dog poo all over him. Whatever the little brother did, is not as bad as the bigger brother forcing the little one do something like that, no real lessons were learned, just negativity.
  46. 0 points
    I mean if they don't lock it, it isn't officially closed. So we can still claim. I think I see a loophole lol
  47. 0 points
  48. 0 points
    jRuutu

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Hard not to think that there was nothing extra in play when deciding this punishment, could have just as easily decided to punish the team in some other way, despite what was agreed on before the season. It´s not fair to make a team play with a backup in playoffs, it´s just not. Regular season games are not the same as playoff games, playoff games are more valuable always. Throwing these extra games to playoffs too easily and in this case, it seriously hurt the team. That is excessive, I agree, but something that could happen even in smaller scale, some team having more than few picks and a lot of cap space, then missing playoffs and you are left wondering how to punish the team in a situation like this, take a pick away? Uuh, that hurt - got 4 more left, cap penalty? Owie, now I only have 15 mills left, could be years before that team hits playoffs, so not going to hit a team like that too harshly.
  49. 0 points
    BluObieZ

    Drafting of a Slade

    And you will stay the same. For that non emphatic Done.
  50. 0 points
    Sonnet

    Keaton Louth Rule

    Jesus, this thread is a salty shitshow.
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