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In just his first season in the Victory Hockey League, Brennan McQueen was unarguably the best defensive forward in the entire league. On a rebuilding Riga team, McQueen was a force to be reckoned with using his big body structure to lay out the big hit and not being afraid to throw it in front of any shot either. He ended the season leading the league in hits with 371 over the 72 games played. He also posted an outstanding 92 shots blocked which without doing any research is probably the best in the league as a forward and even better than some defensemen! Playing this style of game is dangerous though and he was near the top of the league in penalty minutes almost all season long.

 

With still a ways to go in his career we will see if he can keep up the strong defensive play as well as improving his offensive output. He had a decent rookie season putting up 34 goals, the most of any rookie in the league but just 29 assists for 63 points on the season. If he can up his offensive output quite a bit he could be in the talks for best two-way player for the rest of his career.

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Not so fast bash bro! I'm against you and I'm going to make it a debate :)

I got 5 less hits but 9 more points.

Your -59 to my +12

Your 216 turnovers to my 133.

My 6 gwg to your 2.

You had 166 PK minutes to my 195.

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> using offensive stats in a defensive forward argument

Plus I'm pretty sure that's just hits taken, not turnovers.

The sim counts hits when you have the puck so it essentially means turnovers or possible turnovers.

Points would be for your two way forward argument which you put in for yourself as well.

But the plus minus rating works heavily against you if we're just arguing defensive stats.

I'm not letting you take the title of best defensive or two way forward easily or "unarguably".

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"..in the talks for best two-way player for the rest of his career."

Didn't say I was the best this season, not even close. But the two main defensive stats I was the best in so..

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"Brennan McQueen was unarguably the best defensive forward in the entire league. "

That's the statement I'm fighting against :)

Plus minus works fine if you consider it relative to the rest of your team. There also isn't any line matching in the sim, it's totally random who u play against according to SimonT. Though the probably depends on how the other team sets their time on ice percentages. Whereas McQueen is 2nd last on his team and I'm 4th highest (including Toriyami)

I'd be interested in seeing corsi ratings but I think that's only available in version 2 of the sim or something.

Im a big fan of your player build and McQueen, so don't get me wrong, I'm not saying aren't a great defensive forward.

But XXX is your rival, and I'm not backing down an inch :)

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Because as a forward your core duty still requires you to play as a forward. So offensive categories still apply.

You can say best hitter though. Then it's a specialist category argument.

Highest blocks as a forward is Hashtag Manning at 150.

I'm also arguing because then it generates posts and views and people will see your accomplishments when they come check what going on in the thread. Win win situation :)

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I'd love for you to show me where I said that.

 

"he could be in the talks for best two-way player for the rest of his career"

 

Offensive stats sort of matter for being considered one of the best two-way forwards.

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he could be in the talks for best two-way player for the rest of his career"

Offensive stats sort of matter for being considered one of the best two-way forwards.

Rest of his career is in the future there bud, if you can tell me my stats for the next few seasons then I guess you can argue. If not you're just making yourself look dumb. Read the title.

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I had some of the best seasons by a D man statistically for 3 seasons in a row but all the got shit on because my +/- sucked.

 

How does someone with -59 +/- be heavily considered for best two-way forward is a mystery lol.

 

 

But the shitstirring. I like your style.

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Rest of his career is in the future there bud, if you can tell me my stats for the next few seasons then I guess you can argue. If not you're just making yourself look dumb. Read the title.

 

Perhaps you should get some offensive production to back yourself up before running your mouth on how you're going to be so rad.

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Perhaps you should get some offensive production to back yourself up before running your mouth on how you're going to be so rad.

To be fair, she said that if the offensive production improves that Mcqueen could become a consistent two-way award winner.

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