d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 compare/annotate this to Henry Longfellow through the comparison of similar styles and such: "In The End" (It starts with one) One thing I don't know why It doesn’t even matter how hard you try Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme To explain in due time (All I know) Time is a valuable thing Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings Watch it count down to the end of the day The clock ticks life away (It’s so unreal) Didn’t look out below Watch the time go right out the window Trying to hold on but didn’t even know I wasted it all just to watch you go I kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all fell apart What it meant to be will eventually be a memory of a time when... I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn't even matter I had to fall To lose it all But in the end It doesn't even matter One thing, I don’t know why It doesn’t even matter how hard you try Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme To remind myself how I tried so hard In spite of the way you were mocking me Acting like I was part of your property Remembering all the times you fought with me I’m surprised it got so (far) Things aren’t the way they were before You wouldn’t even recognize me anymore Not that you knew me back then But it all comes back to me In the end You kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all fell apart What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when... I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn’t even matter I had to fall To lose it all But in the end It doesn’t even matter I've put my trust in you Pushed as far as I can go For all this There’s only one thing you should know I've put my trust in you Pushed as far as I can go For all this There’s only one thing you should know I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn’t even matter I had to fall To lose it all But in the end It doesn’t even matter Anyone want to take a shot? it would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,406 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Well firstly, Longfellow...... ummmmm, sorry I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack 496 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Longfellow's style was often considered to be lyrical in nature, and had high melodic value. He rarely wrote about specific events, but instead wrote about the message/meaning. He used a lot of allegory to illustrate his ideas (he symbolized death as a child being cranky to go to bed). It's easy to say that this song is just a depressive reflection of life, ("It doesn't really matter", "The clock ticks life away" etc.) but it could be seen as having a deeper meaning. It could be interpreted as sort of a lesson learned in life, the "doesn't matter" line could mean that he no longer cares about the relationship and is moving on. Hope this gets the ball rolling. d3vilsfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Well firstly, Longfellow...... ummmmm, sorry I forget. Thank you Needed that! Longfellow's style was often considered to be lyrical in nature, and had high melodic value. He rarely wrote about specific events, but instead wrote about the message/meaning. He used a lot of allegory to illustrate his ideas (he symbolized death as a child being cranky to go to bed). It's easy to say that this song is just a depressive reflection of life, ("It doesn't really matter", "The clock ticks life away" etc.) but it could be seen as having a deeper meaning. It could be interpreted as sort of a lesson learned in life, the "doesn't matter" line could mean that he no longer cares about the relationship and is moving on. Hope this gets the ball rolling. Awesome thanks! teach wants me to annotate specific lines and im like dafuq? cause i wrote a summary with what you said.. now i have to go back and annotate lines here and there and i dont know what to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack 496 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Have you read any specific poems of his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Have you read any specific poems of his? read? yes. Understand? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corco 1,124 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So how many other works by Longfellow have gone platinum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack 496 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Which ones? They were probably chosen for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 So how many other works by Longfellow have gone platinum? Joke right? Which ones? They were probably chosen for a reason. A psalm of life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack 496 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 There's plenty of lines in there that relate. Plenty of references to time, life, importance of becoming a better person etc. Also, the instruction said compare - that means you can talk about the different outlook that Longfellow and Linkin Park had, pessimistic vs optimistic etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 There's plenty of lines in there that relate. Plenty of references to time, life, importance of becoming a better person etc. Also, the instruction said compare - that means you can talk about the different outlook that Longfellow and Linkin Park had, pessimistic vs optimistic etc. i dont see it.. but i can try.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack 496 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 'Not enjoyment, and not sorrow, Is our destined end or way ; But to act, that each to-morrow Find us farther than to-day' This means "Don't worry about finding happiness or worrying about sadness, just improve yourself each day" vs 'I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn't even matter' Which is the opposite. They're saying "I worked hard for happiness and didn't get it so it doesn't matter". That's all I'm giving you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,106 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 When is this due? I might get a chance to look at this on Wednesday, when I'm off. Don't really feel like doing it right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 'Not enjoyment, and not sorrow, Is our destined end or way ; But to act, that each to-morrow Find us farther than to-day' This means "Don't worry about finding happiness or worrying about sadness, just improve yourself each day" vs 'I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn't even matter' Which is the opposite. They're saying "I worked hard for happiness and didn't get it so it doesn't matter". That's all I'm giving you. alright thanks! thats more than i had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,106 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tomorrow... Fair enough. Might take a look in a bit, I mean I did this sort of thing enough to get a degree in it, but I always got bored with Longfellow specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3vilsfire 132 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Fair enough. Might take a look in a bit, I mean I did this sort of thing enough to get a degree in it, but I always got bored with Longfellow specifically. please do if you want.. im doing this because i have to.. i want to go into West Point and do Defense and Strategy... not longfellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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diamond_ace 3,106 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 "Life is real! Life is earnest! And the grave is not its goal" "That each tomorrow Find us farther than today" Both of these refer to life as being worth more than simply the passage of time, but that some other goal, some accomplishment, must be the purpose of life. This is directly contradicted by "Watch it count down to the end of the day The clock ticks life away" in that it refers to life as merely a counting of days and time until life is gone, but moreover; "Time is a valuable thing Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings" seems almost more to uphold Longfellow's claim more than the line immediately thereafter in the song. If time is valuable, why might that be? Is the song, too, implying that the passage of time is not solely the goal of life, but that there is more to it? "Trust no future, howe'er pleasant! Let the dead past bury its dead! Act, act in the living present!" This refers to another claim of Longfellow's that one should not dwell upon the past, but let it be, and to act in the present based on what is presented at the time. "Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme To remind myself how I tried so hard In spite of the way you were mocking me Acting like I was part of your property Remembering all the times you fought with me I'm surprised it got so far" The speaker here is dwelling on his past, exactly what Longfellow warned not to do, and is just looking back with anger and regret. Given that, it seems to hold up Longfellow's claim that the past is best forgotten, if it's brought nothing but more pain to the speaker in the song. Here's a little bit for you. See what you can develop around this as well as Jackim's stuff earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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