nurx 914 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 So last week I made an article discussing the problem with how some players in the league are not even getting free agency offers. I left what honestly likely is the best option as a footnote for a reason... more TPE this week! However, I do believe that the problem I have mentioned the last two weeks is the biggest problem currently facing the league. I see it as an abject failure of the league that people who want to be involved in the league are not even getting an chance to play. These players are the players that M GMs work so hard to keep in the league and get excited in the league, and we are seeing them continue doing what they did in the M and not even get offered contracts in FA. Therefore I am going to go over a few of the reasons why the E should be disbanded. Wait I actually agree that the E has a place in the league for a certain group of players and that taking away that league would hurt the entire community? I guess I am arguing why the E should be expanded. 1. The E is largely an active league. The E has a large amount of players who are sitting in the league right now updating. Taking a look at the reigning champions in Oslo all but two of their players have updated since January 1st, 2023. Of those two inactive players one updated in November and the other in September. Which leads me to believe the most successful teams aren't just hoarding the high TPE inactive players to win championships. The main idea though is that the players in the E are less likely to talk in discord locker rooms. Which to a degree is true, but as with all locker rooms locker rooms need activity to breed activity. So here is the first suggestion I am going to put out in a long list of suggestions... add an IA rule in the E which is significantly less strict than the M's rule maybe something like 6 weeks of not updating or not posting on the forum. This would encourage the E GMs to breed the activity in the locker rooms a little bit more than we have now and maybe eliminate the current E is inactive meme. 2. Skipping the E and M hurts the minor leagues. As I have stated activity in locker rooms breeds activity. I have drafted players specifically because I know they are active in the locker rooms and I know there are plenty of M GMs that do the same. The idea being that having an active locker room will breed excitement for the league and keep the players updating. However, right now max earning players have two options either you are staying down in the M after being drafted and being at the cap the whole season or you go to the E and skip the M. Being capped all season also leads you to likely being very near skipping the E by the time the next season comes. That leads to recreate players who are often the most active in locker rooms not playing in one of the leagues. So my next suggestion is this increase the hard E cap to 500 and the soft to 400, increase the M cap to 250. That would make it so no player will skip either league and will play a full season in both leagues helping both leagues. This change would also mean fewer players in the VHL which would help the problem of welfare and welfare+ players not having a place to play in the VHL. Lemorse7 and Gaikoku-hito 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemorse7 1,021 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 In the E rule book there isn’t a max tpe cap for player to play but after 400 they are automatically push to the vhl so they could theoretically still play in the E if no teams have the cap space in the VHL to play them Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/#findComment-969020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,101 Posted January 16, 2023 Commissioner Share Posted January 16, 2023 44 minutes ago, Lemorse7 said: In the E rule book there isn’t a max tpe cap for player to play but after 400 they are automatically push to the vhl so they could theoretically still play in the E if no teams have the cap space in the VHL to play them They could not. That’s basically just reading the rulebook with the intention of finding a loophole rather than following the intention of the rule. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/#findComment-969027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,101 Posted January 16, 2023 Commissioner Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, nurx said: This change would also mean fewer players in the VHL which would help the problem of welfare and welfare+ players not having a place to play in the VHL. Would it though? It’s not as if their caps are any lower; all it does is move the bar for everyone. Max earning players still get to the VHL quicker than welfare players and still fill up the rosters while welfare players are still earning to make it up. It would take n theory help M and E activity levels but I fail to see how moving the bar for everyone would do anything but slide the problem down later. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/#findComment-969030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownMinion 728 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Do we know two different Es, PF and walfare is not active, and the E is not in a place for expansion that’s 100% sure. Plus my roster will only be IA this season because there isn’t enough active players already Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/#findComment-969037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownMinion 728 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Beketov said: Would it though? It’s not as if their caps are any lower; all it does is move the bar for everyone. Max earning players still get to the VHL quicker than welfare players and still fill up the rosters while welfare players are still earning to make it up. It would take n theory help M and E activity levels but I fail to see how moving the bar for everyone would do anything but slide the problem down later. I don’t see how the E can help a lot with no active players, we have call up issues right now due to most likely the VHL cap, where player at 302 TPE jump at to the majors and we are left we the under 300 above 200 group of the draft, and also the rest of the leagues activity has seemingly dipped the past few season, the Whole SKIP THE E thing is a big reason for this, every gets told how bad the E is, in order to make it better we need activity, but in order to get that we need players to stop saying how bad the E is when it’s not actually that bad Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/#findComment-969038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarson 744 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Article Review: I enjoy articles of this nature. Reality is we all look at the VHLE differently. I personally enjoyed my time in the E and had a great time talking with my GM Arce (unfortunately no longer an E GM). At some point we may need to accept that these types of articles aren't going to go away because the current relationship between the VHLM, VHLE and VHL isn't quite working properly. I am not sure anyone has completely put their finger on what the issues are and as noted above it may all boil down to a perspective issue with the E. I think in this instance continued conversation may be of some benefit. I appreciate that this is a keep and fix the E stance, where there have been many calling for a collapse of the E. Great thoughts, 9/10 on this article. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/#findComment-969050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaikoku-hito 2,134 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Review: I love reading articles that have ability to open up debate and conversation around a topic. I love the fact that you tried to add some comic relief to the topic and your points are clearly laid out in a organized fashion but I would really love to see some usage of Bold, Underline, Italic and color as it would really help the article be visual appealing. Staying on that topic also try to include an image based around the topic. I would also suggest providing some facts or data to help make your case but I feel this is more of an opinion article rather then a fact based article. Overall: 8/10 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/132183-a-case-for-expanding-the-e/#findComment-969052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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