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THAT'S NOT TRUE. In regular TOS Jailor is listed separate but can be TT. Being the only TS DOES NOT PROVE HIM. Barzal was attacked by Maf, have him stay alive, then there are 4 left, 2 guaranteed Town. If I don't vote with you tomorrow, then you Exe me tomorrow, it's still 2v1 and you can lynch 1 exe 1.

Yall are just forcing me to lose because you don't want to try to figure out who the traitor actually is. If you really don't trust me exe me tomorrow if the plan doesn't work.

And again, the logic is faulty. The Town Traitor can be any role, even if it's listed already. In regular ToS Jailor can be the Traitor even though it's listed separately. So there is effectively a 4th RT slot.

@Nykonax @rjfryman @Devise @BarzalGoat @eaglesfan036 Please reconsider. I am the only role who can't be Town Traitor. Attacked on a night with no TP on me, claimed outright D2 without trying to hide it. Ferk confirmed I don't visit. Please don't force me to lose because of terrible logic by Nyko

@Spartan vote out Devise, all the visitors except Barzal suicide onto RJ, leaves the 4 of us. If it ends up being just us 4, we vote out RJ and Town wins. If I don't help Town vote tomorrow then exe me tomorrow (you won't lose your exe since I'm survivor), then you vote out one and exe the other the 3rd night if needed.

Town Traitor can be ANY listed Town. Just because there was only 2 TS doesn't mean that one isn't the traitor.

Why vote for me? I'm the only confirmed not TT as I was attacked and lived N1, which no Town role could do. Barzal is confirmed not TT since he was attacked by Mafia, have him not suicide, then you have Barzal, Spartan, RJ, and me amd Town still have voting power. Makes zero sense to force me to lose when it's not possible for me to be who you're looking for.

Vote Devise Has Mafia attacked anyone besides Spartan? I don't believe they can attack themselves so that might rule out more people.

So Town has 3 lynches and 1 Jailor execute to find the Traitor amongst the remaining 8 Town. Probably best to have the Jailor execute someone tonight; eliminate a possibility early and the only real reason to stall that would be if Jailor is TT.

@OrbitingDeath thanks for giving the game a shot! It's not for everyone, and if I made you feel uncomfortable then I'm sorry. Hope all is well with you

EFL 12

I didn't say making, I implied already made. ?

Vote Doomsday Remember our talk about mistakes yesterday? Seems like yours have been spotted...

Town Traitor is such a weird mode like that

You think we should lynch?

@Devise did hatty say if anyone visited Nyko last night?

We can leave it to @Spartan to decide. You do seem genuine, and it's such a huge swing for Town when the res goes off that it might be worth waiting another night (especially when you can bring back hatty now as LO). Town is far enough ahead that they can probably take the risk of it being a stall tactic.

Trans not trash

It's very unfortunate since if you are retri, Town effectively loses 4 people due to the misplay (retri doesn't get confirmed, trash doesn't come back to life, medium doesn't get confirmed, and mafia gets a free night to kill).

Vote OrbitingDeath No res, no retri. If you know you're going to be busy for most of or the entire night phase, send in your night actions early just in case. You can always upset Gustav/change them later.

With Retri Devise will get confirmed one way or another. Maybe it would be better to confirm osens? None of the other results for BG make sense since GF wouldn't have visited Jailor multiple times while Mafioso was alive, so if he's actually Maf it would have a different result. Same with z16, none of the non-Sheriff results would make sense and is another common evil claim.

There's also very much a possibility that the TT is playing straight, so even a confirmed role could be the traitor in hiding. Jailor was not in the role list, so with Vet being confirmed it fills one of the random town spots as well. That said, the Town Traitor spot is an effective 4th random town as the TT could also be one of the other confirmed slots (TI, TP, TS, TK).

There's 2 TS spots. Transporter was one, Medium or Retri is the other based on current claims. Retri revives Mike and gets confirmed, then Mike says "hey Devise is Medium" and you're also confirmed as one of the random town spots. If retri doesn't revive, he gets lynched tomorrow and you become soft confirmed because no one else has tried to claim the 2nd TS spot at that point.

Idek what you're rambling about anymore. Voting for Berocka is not saying "we should lynch him", it's "hey you haven't said much in 4 days and you're one of the few who hasn't claimed. Can you please claim?"

That's correct. I think it was last game or the game before, Dok was legit Invest and more or less confirmed (at least to me since he had my results correct), and then over the next two days he forgot to submit an action then checked someone who was already confirmed. He got lynched for it despite being semi-confirmed because it was super susp. Town has to push on mistakes and contradictions as they arise, but not every mistake is an admission of guilt, and if you don't have anything concrete to push with, sometimes you have to use your intuition. Pushing Berocka now is a good call; going through with the lynch depends on how he responds.