nurx's Fantastic Podcast Ep. 3

[nurx 914]

https://anchor.fm/nurx/episodes/nurxs-Fantastic-Podcast-Ep--3-e1c1hs7

 

Another 2 week claim podcast.

 

Today I:

* Talk about the ongoing @JardyB10

* Talk about the Miami Management Podcast@Ledge

* Revel in memories throughout

*Discuss why this podcast exists

* talk about Yun Chiang's success in Oslo

* Miami Marauders Captain vote

 

 @Shindigs @Nothing but goals

@Goonie77 

* Complain about VHLM trades cultur

*other things I'm sure of it

* finished the podcast with something special for jardy

 

[Shindigs 1,771]

Pretty massive audio issues in this one that made large parts very hard to hear, which is unfortunate.

 

My 2 cents on the meta forward thing, even though I said I was done talking about it. But hey you brought it up, and I have opinions. So here goes:

Spoiler

For the thing about meta forwards still existing with the cost change. That potential change obviously wasn't very well received, so it's largely a dead suggestion. But with that being said; In the current state of the league, there are 6 active forwards (Almost all S76 or S77) who could even be 40/99/99, 4 of them could have some decent levels of sk/ph on top of that. Also 2 Defensemen, both capable of decent sk/ph. At that point it's no longer a league wide issue, as meta players aren't the issue per se. Meta teams are the issue (from a macro perspective at least), because of the cap constraints of meta forwards needing to be such high TPA it would be unfeasible to fit a meta team under the cap, not to mention somehow getting all 6 current forwards and 2 defensemen on your team at once isn't going to happen.

 

If we ignore just the meta thing and look at the bloated numbers, something that is arguably a bigger issue for the sim engine. Then as I believe Spartan pointed out, in the NHL sims using the STHS engine; The highest SC of any player is something like 93. 99 is just not intended to actually be used. The sim engine is not balanced for 99/99 players. At that point we can't in good conscience blame the sim (even though it IS shit), as the actual issue is a "database issue". a.k.a we have made players who shouldn't exist. So at that point what you'd really want (again partially based on stuff Spartan said, with references to Dmax) which also happens to mirror my own point of view. Is that a likely solution would be higher TPE cost scaling at the high end of attributes to make it so that going for 99 is unrealistic. Because doing so would cost too much to be efficient, no matter which attribute you are trying to hit it in. When 99 is no longer the default, we start needing to actually make a choice of what number we DO want to hit. Instead of auto-piloting to 99. Choice is always good, in my personal opinion. This also means we still have ways to use our TPE, at all times. Even if at some point it becomes cost inefficient.

 

The whole point of having a scaling cost system is to make players not dump all their TPE into one attribute at a time. But that's almost exactly what we're doing. Not because that system (scaling cost) doesn't work. But because the high end scaling isn't high enough to perform it's primary purpose. That's just a balancing issue that could be fixed relatively easily, though it would require quite a bit of TPA resetting when implemented. And probably would cause more than a little salt from current players. Which is understandable, no one likes being "nerfed". But if everyone is "nerfed" equally you'll still be equally good, relatively speaking.

 

I also like a variation of the thing you brought up with lower caps for secondary attributes after the first is maxed. Though it still doesn't get to the "99=things break" problem. This was brought up by Spartan in his podcast as well as someone in the Attribute thread, can't recall who though. Basically a version of the roles used in something like EA NHL games. That enforce different max caps on attributes based on your role. The issue then becomes making the sniper role balanced, to stop everyone from picking it. This would also allow you to set the caps lower than 99 if you so please. Thus partially fixing the "99=things break" problem. Downside being that we'd have TPE bloat and nothing to use it on.

 

What I just see as a potential issue to a part of the community, and arguably the community as a whole in a way. Is that if you lower the caps and don't increase the cost, you make max earning way worse by default. Because you will hit a point where you can only add attribute points to things that either a) do nothing or b) potentially make your player worse at doing what it's meant to be doing*. Which means you probably don't need to bother with a PT anymore, might as well just welfare and do some reviews. But wait, no one is making PTs anymore so what are you supposed to review? And if no one is making PTs what's driving forum activity and community interaction for newer members? Both things that I felt were massive to starting to feel like part of the community as a new member. So at that point did the "fix" to meta forwards just dumpster the forums? Maybe? So as a community focused league, that's likely not going to be an acceptable solution.

 

*Over updating CK due to no choice being a common thing to blame for an almost-meta player under performing.

 

Jardy's going to lose his poor mind at hearing your language at the end, young man!

[nurx 914]

2 hours ago, Shindigs said:

Pretty massive audio issues in this one that made large parts very hard to hear, which is unfortunate.

yea I couldn't do much for that unfortunately because of well driving

[JardyB10 4,869]

The audio did indeed turn out rather poor. I'll chalk it up to you young people downloading sketchy newfangled apps on your beepy boopy hand computers you all use.

 

Speaking of which, I would have shot Santa in the back of the head after about the third time he told me to turn and have a Merry Christmas.

 

I quite enjoyed the MMP! I'm noticing a theme that I tend to enjoy podcasts that are specific and deep with a single team (I really liked Thad's San Diego podcast back in the day [earlier this year]).

 

I also enjoyed the anecdote about the batshit suthern hockey league, even though your audio was freaking TF out for some of it. You didn't even link any articles like you promised!

 

I've definitely also noticed VHLM GMs have quite the tendency to try to offer absolute garbage! I get trying to start negotiations low, but come on.

 

Chiang is going absolutely apeshit with Oslo, it's almost unbelievable. I hope you manage to squeak into playoffs.

 

Anyway it's 4:00 AM what the fuck am I doing writing a review nearly 12 hours after listening to your podcast?

 

Watch your fucking language, 3/10

 

 

[Shindigs 1,771]

2 hours ago, JardyB10 said:

I've definitely also noticed VHLM GMs have quite the tendency to try to offer absolute garbage! I get trying to start negotiations low, but come on.

New trade offer in:

Quote

 

HFX "JardyB10's left kidney"

HFX "JardyB10's right kidney"

in exchange for:

IDK Probably PHI S83 5th round pick

 

Sounds like a bargain to me.

 

2 hours ago, JardyB10 said:

Speaking of which, I would have shot Santa in the back of the head after about the third time he told me to turn and have a Merry Christmas.

You're not wrong. But shooting Santa is kinda frowned upon.

[nurx 914]

19 hours ago, JardyB10 said:

You didn't even link any articles like you promised!

You are right

 

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/local/2017/03/16/knoxville-ice-bears-player-suspended-rest-season-after-shooting-puck-into-opponents-bench/99246698/

 

 

 

wish I could find some of the photos but yeah wildly unpopular wonder where he is now...

[Shindigs 1,771]

On 12/24/2021 at 6:04 AM, nurx said:

wonder where he is now...

Man's still on the same team. Played 19 games and scored 14 points this season. So apparently being suspended for a year just made him stronger.

[nurx 914]

Claiming final week!