Toronto Trade History since S72... there's not much.

[Peace 1,562]

So... I just traded away a first round pick in S77, Chad Magnum and Erik Killinger in exchange for London's next three seasons of first round draft picks which includes S75's second overall. It got me thinking about how I've done, and that lead to being curious how the league as a whole thought or thinks about the trades Toronto had conducted. Everyone always claims 'this team won!' right off the bat, but over time the script flips and users periodically debate who won a trade and for what reasons. It is rare, but it happens. 

Let's break down the most recent trade Toronto made: 

Toronto receives: 
S75 LON 1st
S76 LON 1st
S77 LON 1st

London receives: 

Chad Magnum
Erik Killinger
S77 TOR 1st

On the surface this trade looks like Magnum for a first round pick, Killinger for a first round pick, and a pick swap where ever you break it down. In reality this was more complicated, and was a trade that took quite some time to iron out. Once McWolf and I were comfortable with the returns our clubs would be receiving, we pulled the trigger, but the value wasn't always like this. I'm only going to speak from my perspective, as I cannot read the mind behind the London United, but what I can do is explain myself. 

You see I did a thorough TPA analysis with Toronto's depreciating roster. I included the level of depreciation with and without fighters, considered how much banked TPE those who were experience depreciation had saved up, rookies that were getting both training camp and VHLM Grad bonuses... the whole nine yards, and I discovered that the situation was a metaphorical razors edge. I could either sell my future (S76 and S77 first round picks) in an attempt to acquire defenders. 

I tried that, but it led nowhere, and all the pending UFA defenders were quickly signed after that. So naturally the scale tipped, and we fell off that fine edge. Dtayl and I had decided to commit to a rebuild, and we were focusing on trading away Killinger and Magnum. Corco had waived, we asked Hextall too, but Rookie wanted to stay in Toronto -- something I'm immensely appreciative of -- so the work continued. We were striking up conversations with numerous teams at that point, but the leading contender was Vancouver. That boiled down, and ended up with Beaviss simply wasting my time. 

Next morning London and I started talking again just keep the negotiations going, and a deal was agreed upon. Killinger and Magnum join a London team that made previous trades to improve their team, and with the addition of two elite level players, London now has a competitive EU roster. I showed McWolf a watered down version of what I did for Toronto in a TPA analysis using just raw numbers and the outlook is good. 

 

 

 

 

Toronto receives:
Leo Strauss

Seattle receives:
S77 TOR 2

 

I honestly think this one is pretty self explanatory, it's a pretty simply 'hockey trade' I'd say. Seattle had a player on the market that wanted playing time -- knew that there might be hard feelings with some teams -- and Toronto was in a position to acquire him to supplement the development of youthful prospects we already had in our system. I didn't know at the time that gregreg's Strauss would represent the next core of the Toronto Legion, but that's exactly what he's prompt to be now as he develops alongside his teammates on the first offensive unit. 

 

Toronto receives:
Oh Sens

Helsinki receives: 
S75 TOR 3
S75 TOR 4
S76 TOR 4

I know for a fact that Jubo wanted more for Oh Sens than what he got, but I give immense respect to Helsinki's GM in sending Oh Sens to a team that could give him playing time above raw return value. At the time I wanted to keep my second round pick (which I still have) and Dtayl and I had decided that there was an opportunity to select a quality player there. We stated that we didn't think Oh Sens was a bad player, I actually thought he'd fit well with Toronto (and he did, earning nearly a point per game!) but the price just wasn't right. Eventually Jubo agreed to the trade and I tossed in a couple of fourth round picks as fillers, and that is something I will always respect. 
 

 

 

 

Toronto receives: 
S74 HSK 2 (Nicholas Sunderbruch)

Calgary receives: 
S76 TOR 2
S76 TOR 3

So for those of you were are wondering... this trade was so Toronto could draft Sunderbruch in the waning picks of the second round. We're starting to reach the limits of my memory, as I'm usually either drinking or not really paying attention to the draft at this point, but I do recall making this selection quickly. I don't know what the S76 TOR 2nd and 3rd round picks will be, but Sunderbruch has a promising start as a VHL player with the Toronto Legion... although I'm calling him out here ( @NickSunderbruch ) for that welfare claim. I'm watching you...

 

 

 

 

Toronto receives: 
Fredrik Elmebeck

Vancouver and New York receive: 
Some players, some picks, yadayada
S73 TOR 4th
S74 TOR 4th

The first and last time I'll be involved in a three way trade. I took on Elmebeck's legacy at essentially zero cost, and he'll ride out his final season with Toronto. Rest in peace, my friend, I miss 'ya. 




Toronto receives: 
S72 TOR 3rd (Adam Frence)
Vladimir Shaposhnikov

Helsinki receives: 
S73 DCD 2nd (Oh Sens)

 

I wonder what the irony here is... Shaposhnikov went MIA shortly after the trade, sadly, and Adam Frence returned and then imploded for a second time after I selected him unaware of the first. A few seasons down the road Toronto wound up with Oh Sens in a separate trade with Helsinki, so I don't even know what to think of this trade. The universe works in mysterious ways sometimes, and I want to point out that it was absolutely unintentional how it turned out. I'm not that smart and can't run a long-con thaaaaaat long.



I feel like I've covered the rest of the trades in prior media spots, and I am far too lazy to go digging through my created threads just to find out if I have. I'll leave that task to the updaters, but I don't think it really matters... right? 

I'll be interested to see the communities opinion on who won/lost the trades. 

For obvious reasons there is no poll, but eh... who cares.
 

 

[RomanesEuntDomus 442]

Nice breakdown of what Toronto has done over the last few seasons, always great to read some insight from someone who was directly involved in these things. Especially the TOR/LON trade was interesting stuff. Some small formatting issues, for example when noting draft picks and some of the spacing was off on desktop as well.

 

Review 8.5/10

[Peace 1,562]

Second claim.