Da_Berr 219 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) With the incoming addition of the VHLE and no original ideas for a theme week, I'm going to be compiling a list of my thoughts on the VHLE. 9 FULL SEASONS! Woah the extra season is nice, and if you're a min-maxer, you could earn full TPE every week from the trade deadline till the draft and immediately enter the VHL to have 9 seasons in the bigs. I'm honestly not a fan of how it is structured. It's fine if you do play 9 full seasons in the VHL, but I think it brings down the overall experience for a user that is a midrange earner. VHLE runs a similar route to the VHLM. From personal experience, when I was just starting out in the league I was super hyped, and during my one season in the VHLM, I was super engaged in it. The problem comes after being drafted. After moving up to the bigs, I found myself less and less interested in the minors until I eventually stopped checking it altogether. I feel like the same problem will be there for the VHLE. You'll have 2 groups of players/users in the VHLE. The first group are midrange earners that just moved up from the VHLM. The second will be IA users and people who don't have the time to constantly do point tasks. The main problem I see here is the lack of coverage on the VHLE, which in turn causes users to feel not engaged. Most active users will be focused on the VHL, and slowly the VHLE will turn into teams that have 2-3 active players and the rest will be IA. Since I believe most IA users only go IA in their first or second season, I think this will leave many potential users a bad first impression of the VHL as a whole. Depreciation. I remember early on in S73 I read that some people wanted longer seasons for careers. I was one of those people, but now I realize that the most fun part of the VHL is probably the first 3-4th seasons of a player's career. After those 3-4 seasons, you essentially know how your player is going to end up and their career trajectory. By the 7-8th season, I was more excited to make a new player than check how my player was doing. A major part of that is depreciation. Seeing a whole season's worth of work just gone like that is pain and a major motivation killer. Part of what makes the VHL so enjoyable is "upgrading" your player and seeing them turn into a better player than they were before. Even in real life, no one likes watching their favourite player stagnate and become worse over time. A major motivation killer I found was depreciation. Now, mid-range earners get an additional year of depreciation in their 8 season career in the VHL (an additional 8% depreciation btw). This last one isn't really a gripe but just an honest question. Will, there be a HOF for VHLE players, if so why isn't there one for VHLM? Also how are HOF standards going to change with the addition of the VHLE? Edited June 13, 2021 by Da_Berr DMaximus 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/104646-gripes-with-the-vhle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Berr 219 Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 claiming for theme week Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/104646-gripes-with-the-vhle/#findComment-855110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,026 Posted June 14, 2021 Commissioner Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Da_Berr said: Now, mid-range earners get an additional year of depreciation in their 8 season career in the VHL (an additional 8% depreciation btw). 1. No depreciation level is 8%. 9th season is 7%. 2. Depreciation is going to be officially based off VHL seasons, not seasons since the draft. So if someone spends, for example, 3 seasons post draft in the VHLE they will only get hit with the first stage of depreciation (which is now 6th season) so it’s actually easier on mid-range earners. So the only people who get hit 4 times are the few who play 9 seasons in the VHL. 3 times for the 8 season guys (same as now), 2 for 7 seasons, etc. Da_Berr 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/104646-gripes-with-the-vhle/#findComment-855149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,946 Posted June 14, 2021 Admin Share Posted June 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Da_Berr said: Also how are HOF standards going to change with the addition of the VHLE? I think only the 9 season players will add any complexity to HOF discussion but in any case we've had to adapt to very different stat lines in the modern VHL so I think we've got experience of dealing with this now. Realistically it will still depend on who you're up against and how eras compare. No immediate plans for a VHLE HOF, seems like a lot of work for a fairly niche addition. Da_Berr 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/104646-gripes-with-the-vhle/#findComment-855183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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