BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 The VHL’s big Defensive problems 1.) Over all creation of active d-men is under the league minimum, assuming that each team would want 4 active D Men. 2.) We have an issue if only needing so many goalies but we have an abundance of people in the positions that will be sitting on the bench and could go inactive due to having an unfulfilling experience. Especially when you consider that vhl vets ate more trusted in important positions like goalies where you are expected to be a max earner. 3.) Defensive positions are under appreciated, even though there are technically more d-men awards glory awards like mvp rarely go to defensive players. It’s clear the vhl has a bias to how they value offensive stats over defensive ones. 4.)The numbers show some possible retention issues even from our biggest drafts, it’s clear that something is missing and we are not hooking people. So what do we do? 1.) Have more accurate representations of what positions have been created when members are signing up or in the recreation process. We should see active #s not just the overall. I think being a d man gets way more tempting when you know you are going to be in high demand! 2.)I know this isn’t realistic but goalie position swaps need to be a thing.. we have too many good earning users sitting as second string goalies and they deserve an out after they finish in the vhlm or vhle… also i will say this before position swaps are too damn expensive and you need to consider for the sake of league balance they may be a necessary evil. Honestly i know i would have hated to be stuck behind someone when i had brick and that kind of experience would be enough to make anyone rage quit. Think of this as a user retention initiative of sorts. It’s hard restarting on your first player or even just a player that us 3-4 seasons in. Cut young players a break and let them swap. 3.) RECOGNITION! We focus on making the defensive positions and play-style valued ( hopefully getting ambitious users wanting to make really competitive defensive players). Let’s honor defensive forwards and track defensive stats. Honestly as long as there is continuity it won’t affect anything year to year and with a team of people looking at the sims I’m sure things could be tweaked optimally. This also may give more info so we can award defensive mvps and share the glory. 4.) retention is always a fun thing to talk about but in general I think it comes down on how to get people hooked. And atm we have not much for ppl who want to be gritty defensive players and that is a huge failure on our part because it is a colossal part of hockey. I think if we make an effort to add more to what we offer we will see more user interest and enjoyment. This goes hand in hand with having great enthusiastic GMs in the vhlm through to the vhl to keep people excited about what we have to offer. I’ve said this before ppl come for the hockey but stay for all the other little things. So let’s give them more to be excited about and let’s spice things up. The vhl is ever changing and that is part of the hook. My advice is to look at the defensive side and see if you can add more for those people. As far as actual recruiting goes may I suggest looking into reaching out to nhl discords and seeing if they will let you post. Retention becomes twice as critical with small draft classes, so let’s reach out and maybe double our chances! I would be more than happy to talk on all of this more literally 40 min of my hour podcast with RJ talked about this, you can also consult with him because I’m sure I probably forgot something! @Beketov your tldr Shindigs, STZ, Horcrux and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/112986-the-vhl%E2%80%99s-big-defensive-problems/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 My Data D Spaces 16 VHL : 4 = 64 min / 8= 128 max 35 Current active (within a month 400+) 8 VHLE : 4 = 32 min / 8= 64 max 22 Current active (within a month 200-400) 10 VHLM : 4 = 40 min / 8= 80 max 40 Current active (within a month -200) Total min = 136 / max = 272 97 total updated last month Forward Spaces (Wing and C) 16 VHL: 6 = 96 min/ 12= 192 max 75 total (LW: 22 RW: 22 C; 31) Current active within a month 400+ 8 VHLE: 6 = 48 min/ 12= 96 max 53 total (LW: 21 RW: 17 C; 15) Current active within a month 200-400 10 VHLM: 6 = 60 min/ 12= 120 max 95 total (LW: 34 RW: 34 C; 27) Current active within a month -200 Total min = 204 / max = 408 223 total updated last month G Spaces 16 VHL: Min 16/ Max 32 14 Current active (within a month 400+) 8 VHLE: Min 8/ Max 16 8 Current active (within a month 200-400) 10 VHLM: Min 10/ Max 20 29 Current active (within a month -200) Total min = 34 / max = 68 51 total updated last month ->the logic of these are if the TPA not TPE of the following if tpa < 201 for under 200 else if tpa < 401 for 200-400 else for 400+ Not Retired : D 303 LW: 282 RW: 279 C ;288 G: 130 Last Month Updated : D 97 LW: 77 RW: 73 C ; 73 G: 51 Acitve Under 200 : D 40 LW: 34 RW: 34 C ;27 G: 29 Acitve 200-400 : D 22 LW: 21 RW: 17 C ; 15 G: 8 Acitve 400+ : D 35 LW: 22 RW: 22 C ; 31 G: 14 Horcrux 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/112986-the-vhl%E2%80%99s-big-defensive-problems/#findComment-892364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horcrux 322 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 15 hours ago, BladeMaiden said: My Data D Spaces 16 VHL : 4 = 64 min / 8= 128 max 35 Current active (within a month 400+) 8 VHLE : 4 = 32 min / 8= 64 max 22 Current active (within a month 200-400) 10 VHLM : 4 = 40 min / 8= 80 max 40 Current active (within a month -200) Total min = 136 / max = 272 97 total updated last month Forward Spaces (Wing and C) 16 VHL: 6 = 96 min/ 12= 192 max 75 total (LW: 22 RW: 22 C; 31) Current active within a month 400+ 8 VHLE: 6 = 48 min/ 12= 96 max 53 total (LW: 21 RW: 17 C; 15) Current active within a month 200-400 10 VHLM: 6 = 60 min/ 12= 120 max 95 total (LW: 34 RW: 34 C; 27) Current active within a month -200 Total min = 204 / max = 408 223 total updated last month G Spaces 16 VHL: Min 16/ Max 32 14 Current active (within a month 400+) 8 VHLE: Min 8/ Max 16 8 Current active (within a month 200-400) 10 VHLM: Min 10/ Max 20 29 Current active (within a month -200) Total min = 34 / max = 68 51 total updated last month ->the logic of these are if the TPA not TPE of the following if tpa < 201 for under 200 else if tpa < 401 for 200-400 else for 400+ Not Retired : D 303 LW: 282 RW: 279 C ;288 G: 130 Last Month Updated : D 97 LW: 77 RW: 73 C ; 73 G: 51 Acitve Under 200 : D 40 LW: 34 RW: 34 C ;27 G: 29 Acitve 200-400 : D 22 LW: 21 RW: 17 C ; 15 G: 8 Acitve 400+ : D 35 LW: 22 RW: 22 C ; 31 G: 14 I LOVE NUMBERS BladeMaiden 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/112986-the-vhl%E2%80%99s-big-defensive-problems/#findComment-892571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Horcrux said: I LOVE NUMBERS You can get an update from @rjfryman after the next season or so.. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/112986-the-vhl%E2%80%99s-big-defensive-problems/#findComment-892683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now