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I don`t agree with you assessment of the Malmo situation and the trade that they completed since they didn`t buy a ton as you claim. I would prefer to hear more constructive criticism rather then saying that Malmo is going to be shit, I would like to hear or see more data to prove that they are going to be shit.  So, Let me analyze the trade and the next moves that Lucy can make to improve the roster: 

 

The Trade:

(S96) D - Narnia Shaw  - Traded for S99 MAL 1st - Added a 4th defender that was VHL ready and should make up the future of the blueline in Malmo; Pick will be a mid pick so looking at welfare player in return for player that is earning 12TPE per week.

(S95) LW - Bret Weier  - S98 RIG 2nd & S99 MAL 2nd - added a depth forward that was VHL ready (gave up either welfare player or inactive picks as drafts have been weak lately

(S96) RW - Xhekajs middletoe (HFX)  - traded for 3rds & 4ths: Depth player that can earn when he wants and will be VHL ready next season

(S94) C - Ty Duke (HFX) - traded for 3rds & 4ths: depth player that will be VHL ready next season.

 

So gave up 1 player but got 4 players back in return that will play for Malmo as soon as next season. That is a clear win even if it looks like a loss. It about knowing the current value and future values of draft picks with 3rd & 4th actually being rather worthless in my opinion at the moment. Even a late 1st and 2nd round picks are risky at the moment.

 

GM Player trade:

Lucy Leitner - traded for 12th overall selection in this draft & 11th overall in this past draft; so gave up two welfare picks for a Star defender. Clear win!! Not to mention timeline for these players to make your roster as the timeline is two or three seasons at best.

 

Now future roster breakdown:

Malmo Nighthawks have a set roster for next season with Raves & Kemp leading the way offensively and continued growth of three rookies that she acquired above in the questionable trade (not really but that is how most view it) So she is looking for a single forward to fill out her roster and has somewhere around $10.5M to spend means if she is aggressive enough she can buy another forward this season (S98) and maybe beyond to play along since Kemp & Raves; unlikely she will find two forwards but it comes down to the trades that she will try to make. Every off season starts with teams up against the cap and as you have stated some team looking to sell aggressively. She just needs to be aggressive in buying and I think Malmo could have a good team but one that clearly is taking a step back. So what teams are looking to sell this off season? Vancouver, Moscow, HC Davos, Seattle, New York and maybe even Calgary as they are all close to the salary cap and might look at trying to improve their roster long term outlook.

 

Chicago also looks to be a team aggressively selling since they have no player signed next season and this doesn`t include teams looking to move off of older assets for anything of value in return.

 

Okay, I can already hear you saying but she has no assets to trade but one must not forget that she has draft picks as season ending as she will have S100 picks available to trade so giving up an S100 1st & 2nd to bring a player in now for two or three season should be her goal and will make her team competitive again next season. Currently rebuilding through the draft is too risky so being able to retool using futures at the moment is safer call!!

 

While I won`t go into details of who I think she should target during the off season but if she looks closely she should be able to see a few good players to target to keep her team competitive next season and beyond.

 

Should she trade Rave & Kemp for future assets; NO!! But if she can find a deal that improves her roster by moving one of these assets then she must consider it!!

 

Malmo isn`t as bad off as some might think!!

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9 hours ago, Gaikoku-hito said:

I don`t agree with you assessment of the Malmo situation and the trade that they completed since they didn`t buy a ton as you claim. I would prefer to hear more constructive criticism rather then saying that Malmo is going to be shit, I would like to hear or see more data to prove that they are going to be shit.  So, Let me analyze the trade and the next moves that Lucy can make to improve the roster: 

 

The Trade:

(S96) D - Narnia Shaw  - Traded for S99 MAL 1st - Added a 4th defender that was VHL ready and should make up the future of the blueline in Malmo; Pick will be a mid pick so looking at welfare player in return for player that is earning 12TPE per week.

(S95) LW - Bret Weier  - S98 RIG 2nd & S99 MAL 2nd - added a depth forward that was VHL ready (gave up either welfare player or inactive picks as drafts have been weak lately

(S96) RW - Xhekajs middletoe (HFX)  - traded for 3rds & 4ths: Depth player that can earn when he wants and will be VHL ready next season

(S94) C - Ty Duke (HFX) - traded for 3rds & 4ths: depth player that will be VHL ready next season.

 

So gave up 1 player but got 4 players back in return that will play for Malmo as soon as next season. That is a clear win even if it looks like a loss. It about knowing the current value and future values of draft picks with 3rd & 4th actually being rather worthless in my opinion at the moment. Even a late 1st and 2nd round picks are risky at the moment.

 

GM Player trade:

Lucy Leitner - traded for 12th overall selection in this draft & 11th overall in this past draft; so gave up two welfare picks for a Star defender. Clear win!! Not to mention timeline for these players to make your roster as the timeline is two or three seasons at best.

 

Now future roster breakdown:

Malmo Nighthawks have a set roster for next season with Raves & Kemp leading the way offensively and continued growth of three rookies that she acquired above in the questionable trade (not really but that is how most view it) So she is looking for a single forward to fill out her roster and has somewhere around $10.5M to spend means if she is aggressive enough she can buy another forward this season (S98) and maybe beyond to play along since Kemp & Raves; unlikely she will find two forwards but it comes down to the trades that she will try to make. Every off season starts with teams up against the cap and as you have stated some team looking to sell aggressively. She just needs to be aggressive in buying and I think Malmo could have a good team but one that clearly is taking a step back. So what teams are looking to sell this off season? Vancouver, Moscow, HC Davos, Seattle, New York and maybe even Calgary as they are all close to the salary cap and might look at trying to improve their roster long term outlook.

 

Chicago also looks to be a team aggressively selling since they have no player signed next season and this doesn`t include teams looking to move off of older assets for anything of value in return.

 

Okay, I can already hear you saying but she has no assets to trade but one must not forget that she has draft picks as season ending as she will have S100 picks available to trade so giving up an S100 1st & 2nd to bring a player in now for two or three season should be her goal and will make her team competitive again next season. Currently rebuilding through the draft is too risky so being able to retool using futures at the moment is safer call!!

 

While I won`t go into details of who I think she should target during the off season but if she looks closely she should be able to see a few good players to target to keep her team competitive next season and beyond.

 

Should she trade Rave & Kemp for future assets; NO!! But if she can find a deal that improves her roster by moving one of these assets then she must consider it!!

 

Malmo isn`t as bad off as some might think!!

I couldn’t have said anything better myself. The only thing I think Malmo did lose out on was that S97 11th OVR pick where they could have taken D-Mikko Tuomala who couldve been a Top Earning 1000+ TPE defenseman for their future. But the Malmo time to win was closing so i think the trade that was made gave them the best chance of winning in the end. 

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9 hours ago, Gaikoku-hito said:

I don`t agree with you assessment of the Malmo situation and the trade that they completed since they didn`t buy a ton as you claim. I would prefer to hear more constructive criticism rather then saying that Malmo is going to be shit, I would like to hear or see more data to prove that they are going to be shit.  So, Let me analyze the trade and the next moves that Lucy can make to improve the roster: 

 

The Trade:

(S96) D - Narnia Shaw  - Traded for S99 MAL 1st - Added a 4th defender that was VHL ready and should make up the future of the blueline in Malmo; Pick will be a mid pick so looking at welfare player in return for player that is earning 12TPE per week.

(S95) LW - Bret Weier  - S98 RIG 2nd & S99 MAL 2nd - added a depth forward that was VHL ready (gave up either welfare player or inactive picks as drafts have been weak lately

(S96) RW - Xhekajs middletoe (HFX)  - traded for 3rds & 4ths: Depth player that can earn when he wants and will be VHL ready next season

(S94) C - Ty Duke (HFX) - traded for 3rds & 4ths: depth player that will be VHL ready next season.

 

So gave up 1 player but got 4 players back in return that will play for Malmo as soon as next season. That is a clear win even if it looks like a loss. It about knowing the current value and future values of draft picks with 3rd & 4th actually being rather worthless in my opinion at the moment. Even a late 1st and 2nd round picks are risky at the moment.

 

GM Player trade:

Lucy Leitner - traded for 12th overall selection in this draft & 11th overall in this past draft; so gave up two welfare picks for a Star defender. Clear win!! Not to mention timeline for these players to make your roster as the timeline is two or three seasons at best.

 

Now future roster breakdown:

Malmo Nighthawks have a set roster for next season with Raves & Kemp leading the way offensively and continued growth of three rookies that she acquired above in the questionable trade (not really but that is how most view it) So she is looking for a single forward to fill out her roster and has somewhere around $10.5M to spend means if she is aggressive enough she can buy another forward this season (S98) and maybe beyond to play along since Kemp & Raves; unlikely she will find two forwards but it comes down to the trades that she will try to make. Every off season starts with teams up against the cap and as you have stated some team looking to sell aggressively. She just needs to be aggressive in buying and I think Malmo could have a good team but one that clearly is taking a step back. So what teams are looking to sell this off season? Vancouver, Moscow, HC Davos, Seattle, New York and maybe even Calgary as they are all close to the salary cap and might look at trying to improve their roster long term outlook.

 

Chicago also looks to be a team aggressively selling since they have no player signed next season and this doesn`t include teams looking to move off of older assets for anything of value in return.

 

Okay, I can already hear you saying but she has no assets to trade but one must not forget that she has draft picks as season ending as she will have S100 picks available to trade so giving up an S100 1st & 2nd to bring a player in now for two or three season should be her goal and will make her team competitive again next season. Currently rebuilding through the draft is too risky so being able to retool using futures at the moment is safer call!!

 

While I won`t go into details of who I think she should target during the off season but if she looks closely she should be able to see a few good players to target to keep her team competitive next season and beyond.

 

Should she trade Rave & Kemp for future assets; NO!! But if she can find a deal that improves her roster by moving one of these assets then she must consider it!!

 

Malmo isn`t as bad off as some might think!!

Also, @Xhekajsleftankle is the #1 earning VHL User (as of yesterday) this past month, like Shaw and Weier made the trade look even ish to me if even just a small loss, but the way this player is coming around and grinding out TPE make it a big time W. I don't get why this trade (or really any) is viewed as this team winning and that one losing. Both teams won here. I doubt @McLovin was gonna turn these players into the high earners the same way Lucy has, not to say he is a bad GM or anything like that, it's just really hard sometimes to make the VHLM/VHL transition with a new GM you barely know and go to bat for them. Lucy is just able to get the best out of these guys and for McLovin, he took what he saw as B- prospects and turned them into an A, ain't a problem with that at all. 

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7 minutes ago, Pifferfish said:

Also, @Xhekajsleftankle is the #1 earning VHL User (as of yesterday) this past month, like Shaw and Weier made the trade look even ish to me if even just a small loss, but the way this player is coming around and grinding out TPE make it a big time W. I don't get why this trade (or really any) is viewed as this team winning and that one losing. Both teams won here. I doubt @McLovin was gonna turn these players into the high earners the same way Lucy has, not to say he is a bad GM or anything like that, it's just really hard sometimes to make the VHLM/VHL transition with a new GM you barely know and go to bat for them. Lucy is just able to get the best out of these guys and for McLovin, he took what he saw as B- prospects and turned them into an A, ain't a problem with that at all. 

Prior to Lucy going to Malmo, I intended to just retire as soon as I got to the VHL, nobody interacted with anybody in the Helsinki and I just rather would've stayed in the VHLM. But once I knew there would be a locker room in the VHL with a GM I knew and loved, I wanted to get there as quick as possible, and I intend to continue this streak of earning to the best of my abilities. I don't know if there is another GM that can provide results as well as she can whilst genuinely giving enjoyment to the players she has. I am here to have fun above all, and I feel like the best way I can do that is with Lucy, I wouldn't want to be with any other GM. Thank you Lucy! I have genuinely found a love for the VHL and it would be a lie to give anybody else a majority of the credit. 

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12 hours ago, Gaikoku-hito said:

Okay, I can already hear you saying but she has no assets to trade but one must not forget that she has draft picks as season ending as she will have S100 picks available to trade so giving up an S100 1st & 2nd to bring a player in now for two or three season should be her goal and will make her team competitive again next season

Yiiiiiikessss....

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