eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 But when considering any other award its taken into account largely? Then there's also the argument of being on a shit team inflates stats. Doesn't inflate +/- Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) But it'll sure as hell inflate points goals assists shots blocked and hits. point assists and goals because there is no one else really to score points on the team shots blocked because if you are consistently getting out shot by a large amount you will obviously generate more blocked shots do to the fact you are on the ice more often then not. hits because hits are generated by hitting a player with the puck, so if the other team has the puck more than you do and you play more often then not chances are you will be the one to get the hit. Also +/- is best looked at comparing to someone on the same team with similar minutes. She's -22/-23 to the two most comparable people on her team. NOT MY FIRST RODEO. Edited February 19, 2014 by 8Ovechkin8 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,143 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 439 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Oh yeah so I guess players on the worst teams always lead the league in points, goals, assists, hits, shots blocked.. oh wait Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,662 Posted February 19, 2014 Moderator Share Posted February 19, 2014 Oh yeah so I guess players on the worst teams always lead the league in points, goals, assists, hits, shots blocked.. oh wait Actually he is describing parts of how the sim works. There have been terrible teams in the VHL with only 1 or 2 players on them that somehow manage to win scoring titles. The thing is that its rare to have zero offense so the sim HAS to assign stats to someone, so more often than not it just assigns it to the only good player on the team. It doesn't always happen but the sim does favor teams sometimes in that way oddly enough. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Actually he is describing parts of how the sim works. There have been terrible teams in the VHL with only 1 or 2 players on them that somehow manage to win scoring titles. The thing is that its rare to have zero offense so the sim HAS to assign stats to someone, so more often than not it just assigns it to the only good player on the team. It doesn't always happen but the sim does favor teams sometimes in that way oddly enough. My boy pulls through with the response. For as long as I've been here I pretty much know most trends and tricks regarding the sim. So it's not like I'm pulling this stuff out of air. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 McQueen's still better. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,662 Posted February 20, 2014 Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2014 McQueen's still better. Necrojerk haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,899 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Wahl is pretty exceptional. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 439 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 So you're an expert Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 So you're an expertYes. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 439 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Then why you have such a crap season Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,143 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Then why you have such a crap season Because it's a computer program from which stats are more or less dumb luck? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 TBH Jamie should be in MVP consideration. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball 453 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 TBH Jamie should be in MVP consideration. I think AZ and Osborne have something to say about that. Just to name a few Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Because my team isn't crap. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,662 Posted February 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2014 And 808 is a first year rookie, he didn't have an extra year in the Vhlm and on such a deep team the sim is not going to allocate the best stats to him. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I think tfong and I are made for each other. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,662 Posted February 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2014 I think tfong and I are made for each other. Hold me. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Edited February 21, 2014 by 8Ovechkin8 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 439 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Because my team isn't crap. A team that barely made the playoffs? Your stats should have been inflated. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 lowest overall on team with 8 actives compared to highest overall on a team with 4 actives. Our overall is separated by 1. I'm an expert. SMDWAMFC Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5304-mcqueen-best-defensive-forward-in-rookie-season/page/3/#findComment-43898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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