Spartan

So....this is the real stupid play here, right? Like, it's unfortunate that Gus started up the game early, but he gave us warning on it. In addition, you said that Mike tapped out of the game. If that's the case, how has he been commenting on dumb town play if he hasn't been involved. If he really read all those pages of information yesterday, most of which began in the morning, and had these extravagant thoughts regarding how town has been playing, you would have a lot more than a handful of messages from him to share.

It's the overall strategy for ToS in general, regardless of skill or ELO (in ranked games). There are plenty of people here who have played ToS with me or with others, and they can all agree. I still can't believe that you're this adamant about ME being the TT. There has been absolutely no action that I've made so far that could pin me as the TT, especially having lynched the Witch who I would win with, and not reversing from Flex. A network of protection isn't in my hands, and I'm down to letting someone else do it. If anyone else wants to coordinate how the TP's and TI's act tonight, be my guest. It's not exclusive to me. Your pushback against someone who has helped the town this much in terms of organization is making you a prime suspect as TT or Maf.

The entire way we handled Nyko and his late claim, as well as OD's late retri claim should show that this is absolutely not the case. We give everyone plenty of chances to prove themselves, and we've been tagging people in detailed posts to ask for claims and to plan around people. Why would I have set up a network of protection and info if not to actually help the town???

Breaking this down a little, by paragraph: 1. Eagles is not the primary person I am listening to, and if you look back, I have told him that he needs to go along with what I say or risk getting executed. 2. Yes, I mentioned that "I could be town traitor" in a conversation about the TT game style. Here's the exchange Devise: "Who is this btw? Is that allowed? Spart: "well, it's Spartan lol. yeah, I've claimed so I have nothing to hide" Devise: "I figured since you claimed Jailor but just wanted to make sure. Spart: "I wish Gustav would just let me use my regular [Discord] account smh" Devise: "Eh, with traitor in the game, I suppose it's part of the act" Spart: "well, I could technically still be traitor. I'd still have all the powers of jailor" Devise: "true" Spart: "just focused on killing town, so not dependent on person really" 3. That is exactly the overall strategy, because people who are vocal and claim early are at a higher risk of getting exposed if they misclaim or get called out. People who are inactive and quiet are typically either a very important role, or an evil. The game where I almost won as mafia was when I didn't claim until the very last day with 3 people alive. That is just simply the way ToS goes, from my experience. 4. Each evil faction has to win on its own, except Witch and Mafia who work together. If Berocka comes up innocent, that's his own fault for not claiming anything at all. There is no counter claim to leverage since he has no claim.

That would actually open up the Any role to another town member, which could explain the extra TP, and TS

That's actually very true, I didn't think of it that way. In that case, @a_Ferk can you track omg tonight? Mafioso is dead, technically OMG should be the only one who can kill tonight.

Yeah, I think I'll be jailing one of the two tonight, we'll see. @jhatty8 feel free to not be on Z16 tonight. Go where you please, I'll let you use your judgement. If mafia go for Z, then at least a TI will get narrowed down.

for the fact he was attacked and healed by nyko, who was tracked by ferk. I trust hatty as well, but others just seem to be a little more proven? I'm leaning more towards Z16 and Doom being fake though. But since they're in the plan I set earlier, I don't want to be jailing any of them.

that was the brief flip when I needed a nap lol, instantly switched back to flex very shortly after

@OrbitingDeath I'm not jailing you, but you need to revive the transporter tonight. For TI claims, we have: LO = Barzal LO = Hatty (potentially TT) Invest = Doom (possibly consig) Sheriff = Z16 (also maf? idk if a LO has actually seen him visit) <- @a_Ferk track him tonight please Tracker = a_ferk - since he called out eagles not being veteran, and knowing nyko healed barzal, I think ferk and nyko are both town, along with Barzal

If I was TT, why would I kill witch lol, or keep going with lynching Flex. I had half of you voting with me yesterday when I made the brief flip. I could have easily led a charge away from Flex.

I'm SORRY lol, but vote Berocka or I jail u People hesitating are sketch and will be treated as such ?

amazing!!!!!!!

Also, @osens exactly what role are you?

Ferk and Hatty are still unprotected, Doom is also vulnerable. I don't trust Doom yet, so I'm fine leaving him unprotected. If he isn't killed, then he's either mafia or the mafia doesn't want to get the invest. Barzal was attacked, so I'm assuming Nyko healed him. That would mean that both of them are town, probably, unless Barzal is maf and Nyko is TT doc. I'd prefer that everyone I mentioned sticks to that plan.

Yeah, let's not switch up votes for now. Stay on Berocka please.

I want Doom on Ferk tonight, then Z16 on Doom to determine whether he's invest or consig. In order to get Z16's results, we need a TP on him. If we're sending hatty on Z16, we basically guarantee that Z16 comes out alive tomorrow with info on Doom, as if Doom comes up not suspicious, he's actually invest (unless he and Z16 are mafia). If we lose hatty, then we confirm one TI. I agree on the doc on ret claim though. Let's have Nyko on Barzal, Eagles on Osens. Barzal and Osens on me. @a_Ferk, @Doomsday, @Z16, @jhatty8, @Nykonax, @BarzalGoat, @eaglesfan036, @osens here are your assignments, for now. If the chain breaks in the middle, then we know who is suspect.

For some reason I feel like this is a lie. I don't think the town did anything stupid yesterday apart from me flipping a bit, but we found the witch early, and ended up taking out the mafioso. If he did see Devise's message, I bet he would have answered it. Thoughts folks?

In that case, Devise can you ask him who he would have transported?

Sorry, I'm a little confused. Why would missing the previous morning results impact what he was going to do that night? I'm also not sure what you mean by "whomever he transported didn't call him." I will probably need @omgitshim or @jhatty8 to confirm trans mechanics if they can get a transport off when they're getting killed.

Yeah, that's about the plan. I posted earlier about a chain to follow to confirm like 3/4 TI's, hopefully that results in some critical information. If anyone doesn't remember it, I can mention it again.

That's a theory of his, idk if it's correct. I do have some buzz words set up with folks jailed, just to mitigate a little risk. Problem though is that we have Trans, Medium, and Retri as claims, on top of 3 TP claims and 5 TI claims.

Doom, Z, both LO's, and Ferk are TI claims

Ok, so Z seems to be alright tbh, unless he's TT. We need @a_Ferk's info urgently since he also claimed TI, and I've protected his role for a bit, but we need answers. We have 5 TI claims, and they can't all be TI with multiple TS claims and 3 TP claims.

@Z16 can you tell me exactly what the result you got was? Did your result say that your target is innocent?