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[d3vilsfire 132]

compare/annotate this to Henry Longfellow through the comparison of similar styles and such:

 

"In The End"

 

(It starts with one)
One thing I don't know why
It doesn’t even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
To explain in due time
(All I know)
Time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away
(It’s so unreal)
Didn’t look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Trying to hold on but didn’t even know
I wasted it all just to watch you go

I kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to be will eventually be a memory of a time when...

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter

One thing, I don’t know why
It doesn’t even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
To remind myself how
I tried so hard
In spite of the way you were mocking me
Acting like I was part of your property
Remembering all the times you fought with me
I’m surprised it got so (far)
Things aren’t the way they were before
You wouldn’t even recognize me anymore
Not that you knew me back then
But it all comes back to me
In the end

You kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when...

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn’t even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn’t even matter

I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There’s only one thing you should know
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There’s only one thing you should know

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn’t even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn’t even matter

 

 

Anyone want to take a shot? it would be greatly appreciated.

[BOOM 8,809]

Well firstly, Longfellow......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ummmmm, sorry I forget.

[jack 498]

Longfellow's style was often considered to be lyrical in nature, and had high melodic value. He rarely wrote about specific events, but instead wrote about the message/meaning. He used a lot of allegory to illustrate his ideas (he symbolized death as a child being cranky to go to bed). 

 

It's easy to say that this song is just a depressive reflection of life, ("It doesn't really matter", "The clock ticks life away" etc.) but it could be seen as having a deeper meaning. It could be interpreted as sort of a lesson learned in life, the "doesn't matter" line could mean that he no longer cares about the relationship and is moving on.

 

Hope this gets the ball rolling.

[d3vilsfire 132]

Well firstly, Longfellow......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ummmmm, sorry I forget.

 

Thank you Needed that!

 

Longfellow's style was often considered to be lyrical in nature, and had high melodic value. He rarely wrote about specific events, but instead wrote about the message/meaning. He used a lot of allegory to illustrate his ideas (he symbolized death as a child being cranky to go to bed). 

 

It's easy to say that this song is just a depressive reflection of life, ("It doesn't really matter", "The clock ticks life away" etc.) but it could be seen as having a deeper meaning. It could be interpreted as sort of a lesson learned in life, the "doesn't matter" line could mean that he no longer cares about the relationship and is moving on.

 

Hope this gets the ball rolling.

 

Awesome thanks! teach wants me to annotate specific lines and im like dafuq? cause i wrote a summary with what you said.. now i have to go back and annotate lines here and there and i dont know what to do

[jack 498]

Have you read any specific poems of his?

[d3vilsfire 132]

Have you read any specific poems of his?

 

read? yes. Understand? no.

[Corco 1,260]

So how many other works by Longfellow have gone platinum?

[jack 498]

Which ones? They were probably chosen for a reason.

[d3vilsfire 132]

So how many other works by Longfellow have gone platinum?

 

Joke right?

 

Which ones? They were probably chosen for a reason.

 

A psalm of life

[jack 498]

There's plenty of lines in there that relate. Plenty of references to time, life, importance of becoming a better person etc. Also, the instruction said compare - that means you can talk about the different outlook that Longfellow and Linkin Park had, pessimistic vs optimistic etc.

[d3vilsfire 132]

There's plenty of lines in there that relate. Plenty of references to time, life, importance of becoming a better person etc. Also, the instruction said compare - that means you can talk about the different outlook that Longfellow and Linkin Park had, pessimistic vs optimistic etc.

 

i dont see it.. but i can try..

[jack 498]

'Not enjoyment, and not sorrow,

Is our destined end or way ; 

But to act, that each to-morrow 

Find us farther than to-day'

This means "Don't worry about finding happiness or worrying about sadness, just improve yourself each day"

vs

'I tried so hard

And got so far

But in the end

It doesn't even matter'

Which is the opposite. They're saying "I worked hard for happiness and didn't get it so it doesn't matter".

That's all I'm giving you.

[diamond_ace 3,112]

When is this due? I might get a chance to look at this on Wednesday, when I'm off. Don't really feel like doing it right now

[d3vilsfire 132]

Tomorrow...

[d3vilsfire 132]

'Not enjoyment, and not sorrow,

Is our destined end or way ; 

But to act, that each to-morrow 

Find us farther than to-day'

This means "Don't worry about finding happiness or worrying about sadness, just improve yourself each day"

vs

'I tried so hard

And got so far

But in the end

It doesn't even matter'

Which is the opposite. They're saying "I worked hard for happiness and didn't get it so it doesn't matter".

That's all I'm giving you.

 

 

alright thanks! thats more than i had

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Tomorrow...

Fair enough. Might take a look in a bit, I mean I did this sort of thing enough to get a degree in it, but I always got bored with Longfellow specifically.

[d3vilsfire 132]

Fair enough. Might take a look in a bit, I mean I did this sort of thing enough to get a degree in it, but I always got bored with Longfellow specifically.

 

please do if you want.. im doing this because i have to.. i want to go into West Point and do Defense and Strategy... not longfellow

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[d3vilsfire 132]

 

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[diamond_ace 3,112]

"Life is real! Life is earnest!

And the grave is not its goal"

 

"That each tomorrow

Find us farther than today"

 

Both of these refer to life as being worth more than simply the passage of time, but that some other goal, some accomplishment, must be the purpose of life.

This is directly contradicted by 

 

"Watch it count down to the end of the day

The clock ticks life away"

 

in that it refers to life as merely a counting of days and time until life is gone, but moreover;

 

"Time is a valuable thing

Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings"

 

seems almost more to uphold Longfellow's claim more than the line immediately thereafter in the song. If time is valuable, why might that be? Is the song, too, implying that the passage of time is not solely the goal of life, but that there is more to it?

 

 

 

"Trust no future, howe'er pleasant!

Let the dead past bury its dead!

Act, act in the living present!"

 

This refers to another claim of Longfellow's that one should not dwell upon the past, but let it be, and to act in the present based on what is presented at the time. 

 

"Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme

To remind myself how

I tried so hard

In spite of the way you were mocking me

Acting like I was part of your property

Remembering all the times you fought with me

I'm surprised it got so far"

 

The speaker here is dwelling on his past, exactly what Longfellow warned not to do, and is just looking back with anger and regret. Given that, it seems to hold up Longfellow's claim that the past is best forgotten, if it's brought nothing but more pain to the speaker in the song.

 

Here's a little bit for you. See what you can develop around this as well as Jackim's stuff earlier.