Victor

The past and present of Riga goalies.

What might actually help this is going back to the ancient system we had where 6th season retirement had 15% carryover, compared to 10% in 7th season, and 5% in 8th. It was very much the thing to retire in your 6th seasons (unless, but also often even if you were having a great career) which was why the carryover structure changed. But if there's a real problem with burnout, increasing that incentive again is a simpler solution IMO.

Jardy is dead guys, I'm like 90% sure of it. Have some respect.

5-2 seattle

104 Seattle Bears @ Helsinki Titans 105 New York Americans @ Riga Reign 106 Quebec City Meute @ HC Davos Dynamo 107 Toronto Legion @ Calgary Wranglers

yeah this matchup's got better

That's much more like it.

Is there demand from people to make depth players? We've got the concept of second players but this loses sight of why people want second players in the first place and just tries to compromise based on some of the counter arguments made. I don't think anyone's interested in a compromise on second players.

If you're going to add so many restrictions, what's the point in the first place?

There will always be support for this because it sounds cool. Especially now with so many people who've joined after it was abolished. It just dilutes the experience, it's conceptually incompatible with the premise of this league. Create a player, not two players. Why stop at two anyway? Again, it's undeniably an appealing idea. It just doesn't last past the initial excitement. And yeah, that's addressed a bit by staggering but it was staggered last time too. The idea of a lottery just makes people sign up without thinking and then all you get is members who don't care about either of their players anymore.

To just add an additional point so it's not just "we tried, it failed, forget it", although to be honest that's all that needs to be said IMO... We're seeing discussion about how STHS gives you about 4-5 different player options overall, including goalies. Should we really be encouraging people smashing through those player builds at double the speed?

https://vhlforum.com/topic/30543-two-players-the-proposal-so-far/ Throwback to when I thought this was a good idea in case anyone has any doubts. There's something from Einstein about insanity and all that.

I basically made it happen last time. Molholt's idea but I did this write up and all and pushed it along. It's dead, I'm sorry, this is one mistake we should never make again. I'll be honest, it really happened because we didn't have enough active members. And I still think that it kept things moving just long enough for the league to not die. Got us a couple good drafts in a decade where most were absolutely shit (imagine if it was like S58/S59 for the entirety of the 50s) and that was important but it was just that, a stopgap solution. It's messy, it's unnecessary, and I appreciate the excitement about the concept because I have literally been in that position 2 years ago but its not a healthy addition to the league.

2-1 Riga

Reign Legion Americans Wranglers

Haha nope

Didn't you play for Helsinki who made the playoffs for another 5 seasons or something.

Yeah Sandro got 1 season, Greg has career GAA, wins, and shutouts.

Gow turned up this sim.

Wingers came to party this game.

Its my fucking shutout record ffs this keeps happening I shouldn't have made brothers.

Apart from the fact you still retire them early.

Very good.

To be fair, Helsinki has the better 2nd line.

THE KING OF THE FISHERS