Gustav

Doom buys 60 hoagies from Wawa. He gives 27 to his friend Gustav, who promptly shoots Doom for being an evil liar. Blood gets on 11, and Gustav takes the others. If Gustav gives 8 hoagies to his trusted friend Barzy, how many hoagies does Gustav have?

I just did in the post directly before yours. PB is Neutral Chaos and I find it hard to believe that Eagles has a game where there's no NK. While I don't discount the possibility of PB and/or Vamps in this game, I think it's likely that we have a Jugg and/or WW who either somehow missed on N2 or was inactive. I understand your speculation and I'd probably think the same if I were in your position (assuming you're telling the truth), but there are definite possibilities beyond me being guilty. If I were attacked and had defense...wouldn't it be simpler to just say I'd been healed? I'm well aware that what I said is the more suspicious of two possible choices but lying gets us nowhere.

VOTE DOOM I can confirm that Large Albert was in jail last night--I tried to track him to see if he went anywhere because that would have instantly busted his Psychic claim. This is not very believable, but it is the honest truth so I will get it out of the way instead of getting called out on it and inevitably lynched at some point. I was not attacked last night. This means that either: -Barzal is lying and trying to frame me -Al is a lone GF/Mafioso and, being in jail, couldn't attack anyone -Mafia pulled off a big brain move where they assumed there was a Spy and sent two people my way without attacking...or just didn't attack and sent two people my way anyway. I only list this one because it is possible--I do not believe that it happened.

And Taro is WHERE smh

This isn't necessarily against you then--could just mean omg is trying to screw with us. Was mainly just curious, though it means someone somewhere is lying I guess.

One very very slight suspicion I have... Berocka never claimed to have been attacked (which he should have been if the results from omg/ricer are legit) and hasn't provided any new info as his results are just confirming two people who already claimed. It's very hard to find him guilty of anything at this point--especially since I do know he visited Al so there's one night taken care of--but keep an eye out. Still stick on Doom for now; I'm just throwing some shade out there based on a very vague feeling.

I agree. I wouldn't have agreed, but Flex's actual last will is much more direct evidence of his results than someone claiming to know them. UNVOTE RICER VOTE DOOM If Doom is somehow good I think Ricer should have a nice time in jail tonight but he's probably the one to take out today.

VOTE RICER and I'd encourage others to do the same. If he's actually Medium a lot of people will have a lot of explaining to do.

Then let's build off of this. @Doomsday is this true?

I'm OK with Berocka's claim for now...but check out unknowns and keep us posted. @Advantage what are you? I'd be inclined to vote Ricer based on what you've just said but I think I have to trust you a bit more first.

For the week ending 7/18: 1. We've made some BIG moves since the last time we talked here, bringing in Patrik Laine from Helsinki and acquiring the rights to free agent Gunnar Odinsson. Do you agree with our decision to try to turn things around this season? 2. Speaking of Odinsson, what's one thing you'd say to our friend @BOOM about why we're the place to sign over anyone else? 3. I've hinted that there's one more big move on the way this offseason--what do you think it is? Wrong answers only. 4. As there's no trivia in the offseason, what do you do instead? Do you do an extra .com task or try reviewing? Do you skip your last 2 TPE entirely? 5. Today it was announced that bigAL will be taking over as the VHL's third commissioner. How well do you know Al? Do you think he's the right one for the job? 6. With VHLE GM applications open--would you like to be a VHLE GM? If so, why do you think you'd be a good fit? If not, who would you like to see get a job? @Grape @Berocka@Ricer13@efiug @weekz @KC15 @TheCHEESE @Ahma @Brrbisbrr @PatrikLaine

Based on my results, this was very likely to have been Berocka IF omg is telling the truth. It's possible that omg is just trying to mess with us from the great beyond, but if we have a Forger, this is more reason to look into Berocka. He's probably asleep now so I won't push him yet, but if nothing happens today a visit from an Invest or something would be nice.

I feel like we're getting nowhere today. If anyone has anything to volunteer, please do. Even if it doesn't seem important to you it might combine well with what someone else has figured out.

Hi everyone...I am your friendly neighborhood Tracker. N1 - Rory - no visit N2 - Berocka - visited bigAL @Berockawhat were you doing at Al's house last night? Also, one of my favorite bits of math from the wiki: I think we should push Ptyrell or Ricer today based on the fact that they were both in psychic results where we had one confirmed good and one confirmed evil. If Eagles is doing it randomly, it's statistically likely that at least one of them is evil.

I'll state the condition because it isn't as big a deal as some here may think. Thing X = this player making it up to the big league this season Player Y = that player A big part of this deal for me was clearing out roster space, and this was a player who might be able to make it up if they wanted to. It wouldn't exactly be great for us if they did, but I'm not about to discourage anyone from coming up and this provides a way to make the situation viable for us either way.

Worst-case scenario where a GM leaves and is completely unreachable for info on the deal? There's still one other GM with access to the convo who knows exactly what the condition was and can submit proof. Unrealistic super-worst-case scenario where both GMs do that? It's very likely that everyone forgets that there's a condition at that point. I understand what you're saying, and I would agree with it if it were actually the league's responsibility to enforce conditions...which it isn't. If down the road, Thing X happens and I hit up Rayz telling him he has to do the thing and he tells me to go take a hike, the official league response (from what I understand) would basically just be "that sucks, not our problem." It would be a really bad look for him, but as the league has taken the stance that it's a GM responsibility, it would also technically be perfectly legal.

I'd argue not when it's not the league's responsibility to enforce them--technically GMs could agree upon a condition and then never post it in the thread and follow through/not follow through on it as they wish. It carries exactly the same legality/official-ness as posting it in any capacity because it's a GM thing to keep track of whether or not conditions are obeyed. Even if it's a question of staying within the rules, all is good here. You or any commish are 100% welcome to message me for more info as to what specifically this is and why I chose not to say everything about it in public.

I've heard @Ledge and Dairy only showers once a month.

VOTE MMFLEX I think there's no way all three supposed Psychics are real, but we'll figure that one out after we get some sort of explanation.

DAVID

Ottawa more like Bottawa lmao get wrecked

I was in the first Berocka game and the first Eagles game but I don't remember you specifically in either of those. We'll see what happens

Posting it before anybody else can because I know someone is going to: Still extremely happy with how things went here, not much can be said to change my mind about that.

DAVID