Mr_Hatter

Great game all! Super fun

I love this omg

Though for the record, if this is confirmed, vote FLEX I guess?

Keep your vote on OMG haha this won't be confirmed

@Devise @Domg5 @Doomsday @bigAL @osens We stay with OMG here I think. Either way we kinda have to trust that domg is town. If he isn't we probably lose either way, since his voting block with doom (not to mention whatever night actions he takes) probably means we lose anyway. And if he is town, even if Flex perfectly doused (outside of doom) then we win, and if he doused doom in case this scenario arose then fuck it he deserves the arso win lol. On the other hand, voting out flex means things can get a lot more hairy.

OK, lets look at it from the other perspective. We kill OMG, Flex is arso, he ignites. Who all does he kill? His will that I currently have constructed: N1 - Jericho N2 - Devise (confirmed, medium) N3 - vested N4 - Al N5 - Unknown N6 - Osens If he was arso, I sincerely doubt he would have gone on doom with his limited nights. Let's assume that he visited everyone he says he did, because to do otherwise would mean lying early as an Arso which just doesn't make sense. That means Devise, Al, Osens, are all doused. He would have had to douse myself in one of the nights, and then he would have HAD to douse doom if he has a chance to win. Reason being, doom protected domg last night so there is zero chance domg is doused (it clears douses). To think that arso would have knowingly doused a revealed GA over other high priority town/evils would really surprise me. With that in mind unless he lied about jericho (wouldn't make sense), there is almost no way town can lose even if he ignites tonight, because basically he would have had to douse doom instead of someone else to get the guaranteed 1v1. Once again, it comes down to whether or not domg (and by extension, doom) is town, so either way we kinda have to trust that he is town. We stick with the plan here guys. If he is arso, we trust domg is town and they vote him out, we win. If he isn't, we most likely win anyway, unless there is a fat hex from devise or something, which neither of these scenarios protect against anyway VOTE OMG

Flex legitimately visited Devise N2, so that part of his will is 100% correct, ADV confirmed it

@MMFLEX what is your full will?

Well before we go jumping the gun one way or another, let's think about the numbers. Osens -confirmed BigAl -confirmed Hatter -confirmed omg -evil confirmed flex - unconfirmed devise - unconfirmed domg -unconfirmed doom - neutral confirmed, don't know what side domg is on. Lets say we lynch flex. Osens can protect one of the three confirmed townies with flex if he is BG. If he is arso, thats fantastic. Lets say we get unlucky, and he was BG, and omg picks correctly and kills a townie. For now lets assume there is no HM because no one has been killed by one, and they had the necro for a few nights now. If there is a HM, then another town will probably die, and town just kinda loses 2 confirmed town left omg evil devise domg doom At this point we need four votes. Basically, domg has to be good, because if he isn't then doom and him won't vote with town, and devise isn't enough to get the majority. Its tricky, not gonna lie. Very tricky. I think we need to look more at Flex to determine how likely it is he is arso. I don't think we have a lot of info to go on.

So the question remains. Is it worth lynching Flex to try and prevent an arso killing us all, or do we take the guaranteed evil in omg?

So @Domg5any news on your end?

Myself, Osens, and BigAl are all 100% confirmed. Theoretically sure there could be vamp shenanigans, but considering nothing has come out it isn't even worth discussing really. No signs point to vampires. Another possible play is hatty was forged, but I don't think that is likely? Would have been a huge big brain play, and with what I know from my N4 Osens' ghoul is the only thing that could have visited me and survived, so I gotta think that he is good, which means hatty is bad. Doom is obviously 100% confirmed as GA, while Domg is up in the air still. OMG is evil, unless the earlier hatty logic, but like I said, it isn't really possible due to my N4. Now we have Devise and Flex. I'd like to hear what your results were last night@Devise As far as flex is concerned, the arso play is still a worry. There's no real way we can check against it. Potentially lynching Flex instead of OMG tonight is really the only option besides OMG, and that would just be to protect against us all losing tonight lol

VOTE OMG He lied about hatty being confirmed, so unless this is a super big brain play that forged Hatty as forger, he's a baddie too. I was seanced last night; ADV says that Sixers and Barzal claimed they were forged. We believe Sixers, pretty skeptical of Barzal though. This was Sixers will: N1 - eagles clear N3 - hatty sus N4 - bigal is good 16z was amne, basically he was a little confused and thought he was survivor, essentially he was lying about what he did each night.

Late to the party and I know it's been touched on before, but VSN BOG updates are still planned to occur, but as others have mentioned there isn't always content for it

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Yeah, I don't blame you for thinking that, I had to double check it myself.

Also just as a random aside, I do have a theory on the amnesiac thing, involving a potential Gus mistake. I think that MAYBE mafia forged and killed ricer N1 to say investigator, and he was an evil (probably coven, maybe arso (flex?) Then Amnesiac remembered "investigator," before quickly realizing they are now an evil role, which is why they didn't come clean with the information. I think this most accurately would fit flex as arso. All this to say, this is almost 100% not what happened because ADV claimed that Ricer said Spart was necro, which he was, so Ricer saying that shit would have been so unfathomably unlikely its not worth serious discussion. Also I believe Gus should have announced the real role, so this relies on him having made a mistake. But yeah if something like this happened I'm going to pretend I'm a genius.

VOTES TALLY Osens - omg, flex, hatty Hatty - Hatter. BigAl, Doom, Devise, Osens 5 votes required to lynch @Domg5is the only one who hasn't voted. I honestly think hatty is the move here. If he is actually doc, then osens is out next and omg is looking pretty confirmed. If he isn't doc, then omg is the next to go, since he directly confirmed hatty whereas flex is just siding with them.

Sixers claimed he found hatty sus; and then was IMMEDIATELY killed by mafia. I think they totally could have framed him this night to discredit him and make it seem like he was just lying.

idk I'm doing a big tally of the whole thread right now to pick up on older information and activity Such as this: https://vhlforum.com/topic/101308-town-of-salem-18/?do=findComment&comment=835839 Hatty protecting barzal

* I was veteren going into that night typo, my b

Plus the likelihood that there are vamps in this game and they haven't been exposed by either hitting mafia or mafia hitting them or whatever is pretty low down on the charts.

Fair enough, I can understand that as the only reason that would make sense. Consider this though; you know I wasn't vamp prior to that night, because 16 says he got my results. So even if I was lying, I was vampire going into that night. You know I am a strong enough player that I would have alerted to prove that 16 didn't visit me at the time. You and others were basically screaming it in the thread for him to visit me, when we both know that you knew I was 100% confirmed.

right? Lol. There is gonna be a lot of interesting things to learn when this game is done. @Advantageif you could try and clarify things with everyone and seance soon that could be useful. BigAl or I are the most confirmed by far. Like was 16z the amne investigator and what the heck he did each night, stuff like that. Unfortunately most our TI that is dead doesn't really have much information.