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For what it’s worth I’m fine with this unless we want to avoid further precedent. Only caveats would probably be keeping the regulations regarding 2 players so you can’t just guarantee a team Ironside and Twinger but even that I don’t care that much.

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In that instance they are allowed to create a GM player as their 2nd because the team paid for their first. This is what happened with @Beaviss and @Spade18 What makes it complicated is there are so many situations to account for. It used to be tough already that you had to differentiate between if it was an external or an internal GM change but that was manageable. Now those are still present but it becomes complicated with which of the 2 players are the GM player and how did the team get them. Makes for a lot of potential variables that muddy the rules up and make things almost entirely based on situation. Even precedent here is the Arkander situation however that wasn’t identical because it was an internal GM not an external. Could probably be run off the old regulations and just have Pajari involved in the deal which would result in him becoming the GM player but then you get into the mud of not getting a player free. It’s all very complex.

IIRC what’s how it was handled with Arkander. He was allowed to remain until Kingfisher was brought up to the team. I don’t deny the rules are vague and misleading, it’s ultimately why we considered just dropping P2 all together but that’s kinda how it needs to work. Otherwise how is it fair that you be given Ironside and your new player both for free? Teams could just keep swapping GM’s every season and never need to draft anyone. Obviously thatnwould never happen but we can’t open the door to it. I think we just need to formalize dukes for every possible situation with it which is a bit complicated.

It was mentioned in the announcement regarding GM’s keeping P2. Since the goal is to get 1 player for free, that was Ironside. By creating a second player @Devise would be getting a 2nd player free which means Ironside needs to retire. Pretty sure that’s how it went with Arkander.

Yeah, the predecent from the announcement was kinda set there. @Will had told @Devise that Ironside would play out his career but that doesn’t sound right...

Man, Riga’s continuing to be scary.

If everything goes according to plan index will be tonight, sim 1 will be tomorrow but I can’t guarantee that.

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I was about to say that. Pogge won it in season 1.

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I have the program to backup sim but unfortunately am away today which was the only day Will asked for help. I offered once but he wasn’t in need. The finals are taking a bit of extra time but hopefully the World Cup should be able to start up immediately.

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