TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I certainly can't argue your logic Shawn, I mean you little fan boy haha ill come down to vancouver right now and throw down with you. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I don't like Brandon Sutter already. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF 105 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Canucks had 11 guys playing that would be in their opening lineup. San Jose had 5. Canucks struggled. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Canucks had 11 guys playing that would be in their opening lineup. San Jose had 5. Canucks struggled. Because they're a bad hockey team. Duh. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF 105 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Because they're a bad hockey team. Duh. Duh. Anyone that thinks Canucks make the playoffs over the likes of SJ/DAL are on crack. ANA, CHI, STL, NSH, MIN, LA, CGY, SJ should/will be the 8 teams Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 ill come down to vancouver right now and throw down with you. No I'm coming up to Kelowna to team up with the Ogopogo and strangle you to death. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 lol it was the first game. and obviously Brandon Sutter wont be the first line center in the Reg Season. watch for a better game tomorrow. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 lol it was the first game. and obviously Brandon Sutter wont be the first line center in the Reg Season. watch for a better game tomorrow. We've already gone from "wait to see them play" to "wait for the regular season". Ha. Okay. Of course he won't be the first line centre, but they're forcing the square peg into the round hole of the second line centre. Sutter between Baertschi and Vrbata did not work at all. He was bad. Deal with it. It'll be a different group tomorrow, I assume with the Sedins playing... so I certainly hope the game will be better. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 We've already gone from "wait to see them play" to "wait for the regular season". Ha. Okay. Of course he won't be the first line centre, but they're forcing the square peg into the round hole of the second line centre. Sutter between Baertschi and Vrbata did not work at all. He was bad. Deal with it. It'll be a different group tomorrow, I assume with the Sedins playing... so I certainly hope the game will be better. That's because Baertschi is a flash in the pan. Also, I love the panic for a team that should finish out of the playoffs for more draft picks. Who cares. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Duh. Anyone that thinks Canucks make the playoffs over the likes of SJ/DAL are on crack. ANA, CHI, STL, NSH, MIN, LA, CGY, SJ should/will be the 8 teams SJ has a guy thats played like 30 games as there starter. Calgary had an amazing season last year, no way they repeat. Minnesota is meh. No teams in the NHL are locks right now, remember last season when everybody thought LA and Boston were locks to make the playoffs? Well they didnt make it. Teams like the Canucks, Flames, Capitals and others (who were fringe playoff teams) showed that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Flames won't repeat last year agreed, they will be better. If you haven't noticed both the Flames and Oilers enhanced their lineups drastically, something the Canucks didn't really accomplish. Not to mention Minnesota has Dybnyk locked down so he will be their starter for the year instead of just half of it. Hard to really pin any team a playoff team in the west besides Anaheim. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 We've already gone from "wait to see them play" to "wait for the regular season". Ha. Okay. Of course he won't be the first line centre, but they're forcing the square peg into the round hole of the second line centre. Sutter between Baertschi and Vrbata did not work at all. He was bad. Deal with it. It'll be a different group tomorrow, I assume with the Sedins playing... so I certainly hope the game will be better. it was literally the first game of preseason. quit being so pessimistic. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 That's because Baertschi is a flash in the pan. Also, I love the panic for a team that should finish out of the playoffs for more draft picks. Who cares. Baertschi was the biggest threat to score on that god forsaken line last night. Vrbata floated around the outside of the ice and threw the puck at the net, and Sutter was just... there. And what are you talking about? Yeah, they're going to miss the playoffs, but the problem is management is fucking delusional and think they got better. They need higher draft picks, more draft picks, and elite talent to replace the Sedins in a few years. Instead they're going to get middling picks, they're trading picks away, and they don't have anyone to take up the torch from the Twins. Things need to change or it's gonna get super ugly in four years. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Baertschi was the biggest threat to score on that god forsaken line last night. Vrbata floated around the outside of the ice and threw the puck at the net, and Sutter was just... there. And what are you talking about? Yeah, they're going to miss the playoffs, but the problem is management is fucking delusional and think they got better. They need higher draft picks, more draft picks, and elite talent to replace the Sedins in a few years. Instead they're going to get middling picks, they're trading picks away, and they don't have anyone to take up the torch from the Twins. Things need to change or it's gonna get super ugly in four years. And you are complaining? Super ugly is what they need. Don't kid yourself Sven Baertschi is not the lord and savior that you have talked up. There is a reason he has had a fairly rocky road to the NHL so far, he lacks consistency. But hey continue the false hope and keep being pessimistic about a squad that sucks. I don't get it though, why complain and be angry at the team but at the same time not want them to go anywhere this year? Just let them suck. I mean as a Devils fan, we watched our team suck for so many years including present day, but we ended up on our feet and won 3 cups out of that as well. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) And you are complaining? Super ugly is what they need. Don't kid yourself Sven Baertschi is not the lord and savior that you have talked up. There is a reason he has had a fairly rocky road to the NHL so far, he lacks consistency. But hey continue the false hope and keep being pessimistic about a squad that sucks. I don't get it though, why complain and be angry at the team but at the same time not want them to go anywhere this year? Just let them suck. I mean as a Devils fan, we watched our team suck for so many years including present day, but we ended up on our feet and won 3 cups out of that as well. No, they need some high draft picks used on elite offensive talent. "Super ugly" would be the hockey purgatory of not good enough for the playoffs, but not shitty enough to draft in the top 10. When have I ever called Baertschi a saviour? He's a promising prospect who looks threatening when he has the puck in the offensive zone. Not many Canucks who fit that bill period. I don't know why I keep needing to explain this. It's not complex. I would rather they suck and get a high draft pick, but management is hellbent on the playoffs. My frustrating comes from the fact that they are 1) so fucking adamantly doing that and 2) doing a shitty job of making a playoff team. They think they have improved the team, and I don't want the idiots with that mindset in charge of the inevitable rebuild. Edited September 22, 2015 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Sandro is the Canucks biggest fan. I guess its better then Floridas no fans... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I thought Sutter was decent on that line last night. Definitely not amazing, but decent. I wasn't expecting much out of the first game though. Just like I don't expect much tonight. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 No, they need some high draft picks used on elite offensive talent. "Super ugly" would be the hockey purgatory of not good enough for the playoffs, but not shitty enough to draft in the top 10. When have I ever called Baertschi a saviour? He's a promising prospect who looks threatening when he has the puck in the offensive zone. Not many Canucks who fit that bill period. I don't know why I keep needing to explain this. It's not complex. I would rather they suck and get a high draft pick, but management is hellbent on the playoffs. My frustrating comes from the fact that they are 1) so fucking adamantly doing that and 2) doing a shitty job of making a playoff team. They think they have improved the team, and I don't want the idiots with that mindset in charge of the inevitable rebuild. It's not management that wants them to make the playoffs haha. It's ownership that wants the increased revenue from playoffs. They don't give a shit about you fans. Aqualini's are about making money, it just so happens the one who has more control of the Canucks is the same one with the worst investments. His brothers don't have as many failed properties as Francesco does. That's where the issue is. Which is why if I were you I wouldn't care what talent they put on the ice, as long as it sucks. So when Sutter sucks, who cares thats perfect. When Luca Sbisa coughs up the puck, sweet! The idiots in charge are the ones in charge, get used to it. Management isn't that bad, but ownership is completely stupid. Plus it's not like if management wanted to go rogue and go get every quality player they can get, they could. Because trading away aging veterans with NTC's and expecting a large return is just crazy. Not to mention Canuck fans tend to overvalue some of the players they have. The system, line combos and other things can give a false impression. Shawn Matthias is a good player? Or was Shawn Matthias hot and they gave him a few more minutes a game to try his luck. When they have guys who do well on the second/fourth line and deserve a contract they don't sign them (i.e. Santorelli, Raymond). Alex Edler a good player? Or a product of a coach who no longer plays there. Ownership fired AV for what exactly? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,658 Posted September 23, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 23, 2015 SJ has a guy thats played like 30 games as there starter. Calgary had an amazing season last year, no way they repeat. Minnesota is meh. No teams in the NHL are locks right now, remember last season when everybody thought LA and Boston were locks to make the playoffs? Well they didnt make it. Teams like the Canucks, Flames, Capitals and others (who were fringe playoff teams) showed that. Flames added Hamilton and will likely have Bennett in the lineup. Frolik adds depth. We got better. So even if you do a sophomore regression on Johnny, overall team will be better especially if we have a healthy Gio. Not contenders yet but playoffs are expected. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF 105 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 TJ Brodie out 3-6 weeks with broken hand. Thank goodness Calgary still has a deep D. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,658 Posted September 23, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 23, 2015 Kendrick, as our local law enforcement resource, how do you make of the latest shitstorm with the Kane saga and now possibly tampered evidence? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Kendrick is the one that tampered with the evidence Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Kendrick is the one that tampered with the evidence kendrick's semen was found in the girl. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Kendrick, as our local law enforcement resource, how do you make of the latest shitstorm with the Kane saga and now possibly tampered evidence? I haven't actually paid that much attention. All I know is on the surface it looks like someone is attempting to get money out of it, then again I haven't read into it much. Apparently the rape kit and other evidence was found at the victims mothers house now? Which is a very strange turn of events considering that it would be in the investigators hands/property. I haven't read too much into before that though, just from the surface I heard it was a house party? Is that right? I honestly don't know haha. Edited September 23, 2015 by Kendrick Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 kendrick's semen was found in the girl. Must have had some of my sample petri dishes stolen from my "stock room". Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/109/#findComment-272707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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