Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The back story on Higgins in the past is that he gets streaky and then goes quiet. That's how it was in Montreal, Florida and New York. Not sure why fans keep supporting Kassian, guy is still useless. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I guess they really want to win that CoHo trade. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 The back story on Higgins in the past is that he gets streaky and then goes quiet. That's how it was in Montreal, Florida and New York. I'm aware that's the story on Higgins, but he's effectively been replaced in the bottom six so it's top six or bust, and he's not producing enough to stay in the top six. Hell he's not doing anything enough, usually when he isn't scoring he's at least noticeable in other facets of the game. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'm aware that's the story on Higgins, but he's effectively been replaced in the bottom six so it's top six or bust, and he's not producing enough to stay in the top six. Hell he's not doing anything enough, usually when he isn't scoring he's at least noticeable in other facets of the game. I wouldn't say that, when he isn't scoring I don't think I've ever noticed him outside of turning the puck over. Way too excusable by Canucks fans who still have a fascination with Kassian being a Top 6 guy. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 I wouldn't say that, when he isn't scoring I don't think I've ever noticed him outside of turning the puck over. Way too excusable by Canucks fans who still have a fascination with Kassian being a Top 6 guy. Eh... Higgins usually skates well enough and is noticeable on the PK. I don't think he's even on the PK anymore... Kassian drives play for shitty linemates on a regular basis. Though unless he figures out the offensive side of the game, he's just going to be a less consistent (and less injury prone) David Booth. Plus, as long as Matthias continues to play well the whole "driving play for shitty teammates aka Richardson" isn't as important. The reason people are interested in Kassian is because he's young and has the tools to be something very interesting -- he's shown flashes of it. The problem is it's becoming increasingly likely that the guy just can't put it together. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Eh... Higgins usually skates well enough and is noticeable on the PK. I don't think he's even on the PK anymore... Kassian drives play for shitty linemates on a regular basis. Though unless he figures out the offensive side of the game, he's just going to be a less consistent (and less injury prone) David Booth. Plus, as long as Matthias continues to play well the whole "driving play for shitty teammates aka Richardson" isn't as important. The reason people are interested in Kassian is because he's young and has the tools to be something very interesting -- he's shown flashes of it. The problem is it's becoming increasingly likely that the guy just can't put it together. Yes but even when he was with the Sedins he was lost, those are pretty good line mates. The problem with Kassian is that he is too worried about everything except driving the net. He is a big body who at times shies away from driving the net. He takes poor penalties when he doesn't need too and he just reminds me of a 20+ year old man who dropped out of school when he was 14, he has no direction and lacks focus to achieve anything greater than he is currently. I say he tops out at a Bottom 9 forward and only averages 25 points a year for the rest of his career. People in Vancouver want a Bertuzzi like player, he isn't it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Yeah, people wants a Bertuzzi or a Lucic in Vancouver, I don't see Kassian being that answer. Edited January 11, 2015 by Boomcheck Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yeah, people wants a Bertuzzi or a Lucic in Vancouver, I don't see Kassian being that answer. Not to mention Bertuzzi was somewhat of a rare breed. Yes he was a power forward but he had some of the most gifted hands of a guy that size. That's a hard shell to duplicate Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I mean, if they want a Bertuzzi ... Detroit has one, they can trade for him. It's like the same thing, right? ... Right?! Canucks are doing well so far imo and they prolly make the playoffs. Anyone think Jagr gets traded at the deadline? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I mean, if they want a Bertuzzi ... Detroit has one, they can trade for him. It's like the same thing, right? ... Right?! Canucks are doing well so far imo and they prolly make the playoffs. Anyone think Jagr gets traded at the deadline? I get the joke, it would work better if Bertuzzi was actually on Detroit though haha I don't think Jagr gets traded, but if he does he won't do as well. Elliott Friedman had a good point about Jagr. At his age he is surprisingly better by himself as the main guy. When he gets placed with other contributors he tends to go down a bit in production. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Tyler Bertuzzi will be in Grand Rapids next season, they can trade for him then. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Tyler Bertuzzi will be in Grand Rapids next season, they can trade for him then. Hah! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-170959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Think Selanne makes the HHOF? And will Evander Kane ever pot 30 again. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Canucks are doing well so far imo and they prolly make the playoffs. Probably. And they'll be bounced in round 1. I just look at the roster and way they've been trending since December 1st and I'm looking to the future, this season just seems to be about fielding a somewhat competitive team to 1) appease the fanbase and 2) evaluate the old core. I'm more interested in seeing how the young guys develop and if they can turn into legit NHLers more than anything. Think Selanne makes the HHOF? Absolutely. And will Evander Kane ever pot 30 again. Nope. Edited January 12, 2015 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I need a sig with those hits Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Which is why I said Big Buff too strong yesterday. Also what's with the Jets blowing their leads. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 What bias homer commentators in Anaheim. That was clearly a completely legal check. Warranted no response other than to try and get your team rallied up/stick up for a teamate by Getz. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 What bias homer commentators in Anaheim. That was clearly a completely legal check. Warranted no response other than to try and get your team rallied up/stick up for a teamate by Getz. I admire it, but a poor idea haha. Big Buff is a big customer Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 He's also a moron who shouldn't be on D Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Think Selanne makes the HHOF? And will Evander Kane ever pot 30 again. For sure and yes Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 He's also a moron who shouldn't be on D 100% true Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yeah Big Buff played so much better as a forward imo. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 He coughed up the game tying goal yesterday and probably gave others up Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 he's a liability, gave up 2 odd man chances trying to hold the offensive blue-line now three straight games. Clitstrome is a better d man Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/33/#findComment-171122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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