Moderator MubbleFubbles 1,307 Posted December 31, 2022 Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) https://anchor.fm/mubble-fubbles/episodes/MiniFubbles-Ep--20---Yall-Got-Any-Of-Them-Salary-Cap-Violations-e1sufe6 Edited December 31, 2022 by MubbleFubbles v.2 and kirbithan 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil 1,838 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 mom look im first Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shindigs 1,772 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Very underwhelming road rage at the end. I am disappoint. But this is turning into a nice inception of a rule break within the penalty of another rule break. Edited December 31, 2022 by Shindigs MubbleFubbles 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MubbleFubbles 1,307 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/31/2022 at 5:38 PM, Shindigs said: Very underwhelming road rage at the end. I am disappoint. Expand Ha, I think I would be significantly more fuming had I not been recording and think there was also a bit of bewilderment/speechlessness in there because it was such an unorthodox manouever on the part of the other driver. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shindigs 1,772 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/31/2022 at 5:42 PM, MubbleFubbles said: Ha, I think I would be significantly more fuming had I not been recording and think there was also a bit of bewilderment/speechlessness in there because it was such an unorthodox manouever on the part of the other driver. Expand You need to channel you inner Spartan and be cross at them. Could have easily been a 15m podcast if you did. MubbleFubbles 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,878 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/31/2022 at 5:44 PM, Shindigs said: You need to channel you inner Spartan and be cross at them. Could have easily been a 15m podcast if you did. Expand Shindigs 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,878 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/31/2022 at 5:12 PM, MubbleFubbles said: https://anchor.fm/mubble-fubbles/episodes/MiniFubbles-Ep--20---Yall-Got-Any-Of-Them-Salary-Cap-Violations-e1sufe6 Expand This isn't really an official announcement or anything, but the root cause of the issue was a portal bug so there isn't going to be any league follow-up to this. Nov 2 (date of trade) was before FA opened up so Buzzer should have been auto-released from LA but wasn't. Considering the minimal ice time he played, there's really not much to go after LA for. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MubbleFubbles 1,307 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/31/2022 at 6:10 PM, Spartan said: This isn't really an official announcement or anything, but the root cause of the issue was a portal bug so there isn't going to be any league follow-up to this. Nov 2 (date of trade) was before FA opened up so Buzzer should have been auto-released from LA but wasn't. Considering the minimal ice time he played, there's really not much to go after LA for. Expand While I'd maybe be more inclined to ask more questions of a GM seeing a player they don't have under contract get ice time for 5 weeks and not flagging up the error themselves (as mentioned there were two clear points where this could have been done), that's fair. And just to clarify, based on another point I made in the podcast, this rule is not currently active correct? 2.8 – Notables All players playing on Rookie contracts in the VHLM do not count against the cap. Prime contracts always count against the cap. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,878 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/31/2022 at 7:20 PM, MubbleFubbles said: While I'd maybe be more inclined to ask more questions of a GM seeing a player they don't have under contract get ice time for 5 weeks and not flagging up the error themselves (as mentioned there were two clear points where this could have been done), that's fair. Expand To be transparent, I haven't listened to your podcast so I have no clue what you covered and what points you made. I just figured you talked about what we had spoken about privately. I don't know if the GM brought it up to anyone so I can't speak on that point. But if the blues today say that there isn't any follow-up punishment needed, then I guess we're leaving it at that since they're more in the loop than I am. On 12/31/2022 at 7:20 PM, MubbleFubbles said: And just to clarify, based on another point I made in the podcast, this rule is not currently active correct? 2.8 – Notables All players playing on Rookie contracts in the VHLM do not count against the cap. Prime contracts always count against the cap. Expand Correct Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MubbleFubbles 1,307 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) On 12/31/2022 at 7:32 PM, Spartan said: To be transparent, I haven't listened to your podcast so I have no clue what you covered and what points you made. I just figured you talked about what we had spoken about privately. I don't know if the GM brought it up to anyone so I can't speak on that point. But if the blues today say that there isn't any follow-up punishment needed, then I guess we're leaving it at that since they're more in the loop than I am. Expand To clarify, my comment wasn't about asking for follow-up punishment or not, I wasn't honestly expecting any. It was directed towards your point of the portal being the cause of the issue since (if I remember right), all players start on farm roster so even with the portal error, that doesn't necessarily directly lead to this because a GM has to physically move the player to the main roster for them to get ice time. I get the point that, without the portal error, this doesn't happen, but this also doesn't happen without the GM. Edited December 31, 2022 by MubbleFubbles Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,878 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/31/2022 at 8:05 PM, MubbleFubbles said: To clarify, my comment wasn't about asking for follow-up punishment or not, I wasn't honestly expecting any. It was directed towards your point of the portal being the cause of the issue since (if I remember right), all players start on farm roster so even with the portal error, that doesn't necessarily directly lead to this because a GM has to physically move the player to the main roster for them to get ice time. I get the point that, without the portal error, this doesn't happen, but this also doesn't happen without the GM. Expand Yeah that was my hold up as well, and really what I felt was the main issue. But the decision was that the minimal ice time (around 300 minutes compared to the first liners' 2k+ minutes) didn't warrant further action. I'll definitely be keeping a closer eye on roster compliance moving forward since I should have caught that as well, and we'll make sure every GM knows to alert an admin for any portal issues as well. MubbleFubbles 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/131361-minifubbles-ep-20-y%E2%80%99all-got-any-of-them-salary-cap-violations/#findComment-966344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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