Daniel 565 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 So I've been miring a lot of the graphic work here this last week or so and thought I'd reach out for some help with some of the main problems I've been having. I notice all your renders look really nicely "stylized" (idk if that's the right word), and I was wondering if someone could give me some hep as to how to achieve this. I cut my own out ofphotographs so anyone who could give me some advice about taking them from that state to actually working in a sig would be amazing. Thanks in advance guis Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,100 Posted December 16, 2015 Commissioner Share Posted December 16, 2015 My usual system is a little topaz and a lot of lighting. gorlab 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-293875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 yea i find topaz adjust to be the best/easiest way to do it Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 565 Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 10 hours ago, gorlab said: yea i find topaz adjust to be the best/easiest way to do it You got a legit version or a crack or something? I feel like with paying for photoshop already it seems ridiculous to add another $50 or whatever it costs Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 i know mine is a cracked version what version of photoshop do you have? another way to stylize renders is to make a transparent layer, and use the colour GREY (808080) or any other shade of grey, to colour over JUST the render itself. From there, you set the layer style to OVERLAY (and they grey colouring you did will pretty much disappear). From there, you use the BURN/DODGE tool, set to like 30% STRENGTH/OPACITY, on that grey overlay layer, and use it to lighten/darken certain parts of the render. I think Burn = makes it darker, Dodge = makes it lighter. This is also a good method for making/fixing/changing the lighting of a render. (i.e. you DODGE where the light source of your sig should be hitting the render, and then you BURN the shadows that the light source would create). Kendrick 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 of course, you can experiment with different shades of grey as the overlay layer, along with different strengths on the dodge/burn (i think the slider is called strength, but it might be opacity... pretty sure it's strength) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 the best is to apply the render efx only on the render so you can work with it after. So don't apply your effects on the whole sig. gorlab 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 21 minutes ago, boubabi said: the best is to apply the render efx only on the render so you can work with it after. So don't apply your effects on the whole sig. Say I have a render layer on top of a stock image. How would I adjust the Hue/Brightness on the render without it effecting the stock image underneath? Every time I do it the stock also seems to change effect. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted December 20, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted December 20, 2015 1 minute ago, Kendrick said: Say I have a render layer on top of a stock image. How would I adjust the Hue/Brightness on the render without it effecting the stock image underneath? Every time I do it the stock also seems to change effect. Add the adjustment layer as you normally would and when you get the render looking how you want it to, merge the render layer and the adjustment layer to stop the adjust layer from affecting other layers. Kendrick 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If you're on photoshop, you can do a clipping mask (the short-cut in ctlr+alt+g I think). What a clipping mask does is it applies the layer (or in this case the hue and saturation) below it and only it. You'll see an arrow pointing the layer below him to say that the clipping mask is applied. Here's a picture to show what it will look like. Here's a tutorial about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKyP_vFsRI gorlab 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 But there's other more complex ways to achieve the same result too. You can obviously have layer mask and such. gorlab 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 agrd @ easiest way being to right-click the adjustment layer and go 'CREATE CLIPPING MASK' as it will only affect the layer below it... but I think you can only use ONE adjustment layer this way (I may be wrong) but the second clipping mask will "clip" to the adjustment layer that is the clipping mask of the render. Pretty sure if u want multiple adjustment layers to just affect the render, you need to create a layer mask for each adjustment layer and use BLACK to colour out where you don't want the adjustment to show, and leave where you want the adjustment layer to show WHITE (i.e. on the render). There is a "create layer mask button" under the list of layers. It looks like a grey square with a circle in the middle of it... You highlight the layer you want to mask, click that button, and a WHITE LAYER will appear BESIDE the existing layer. That's what you click on and colour with black or white, to hide or show parts of that layer. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 you can clip infinite number of layers/adjustement layers on it. It doesn't make much sense, but the arrow will point the adjustment layer but it will apply only on the layer we want to adjust. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 but, doing clipping mask is useful because you can go back to your setting and change it if you aren't happy with the result. BUT, if you are confident that you won't need to change your setting, you can just go in image>apply> and then you'll have your adjustment layers there. Your layer must not be a smart layer, so be sure to rasterize it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,100 Posted December 21, 2015 Commissioner Share Posted December 21, 2015 4 hours ago, gorlab said: agrd @ easiest way being to right-click the adjustment layer and go 'CREATE CLIPPING MASK' as it will only affect the layer below it... but I think you can only use ONE adjustment layer this way (I may be wrong) but the second clipping mask will "clip" to the adjustment layer that is the clipping mask of the render. Pretty sure if u want multiple adjustment layers to just affect the render, you need to create a layer mask for each adjustment layer and use BLACK to colour out where you don't want the adjustment to show, and leave where you want the adjustment layer to show WHITE (i.e. on the render). There is a "create layer mask button" under the list of layers. It looks like a grey square with a circle in the middle of it... You highlight the layer you want to mask, click that button, and a WHITE LAYER will appear BESIDE the existing layer. That's what you click on and colour with black or white, to hide or show parts of that layer. If it were a clipping mask of say an image onto a text layer or something only the top image would apply. However, adjustment layers are infinite. You can add as many as you want. For example, to help my lighting I clip two curves layers to my render. One to brighten, on to darken. I then mask them based on what is needed. Also, as a general hint, you can apply clipping masks by holding alt and clicking the line between the layers you want clipped. gorlab 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26498-help-me-make-my-renders-look-not-shit/#findComment-294708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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