Quik 4,113 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Take 2: Another way to encourage player movement So, last week I made my MS about a way to add meaning to finances, in order to encourage player movement through FA. That spot focused mainly on creating an Exceptional Player Status (EPS), which would allow teams to offer contracts greater than the max player contract restrictions, while still needing to be confined within the team Salary Cap. Feedback was mixed, as there was concern about overloading a single player's bank account. Obviously, there could be loopholes that are abused, like a team with just a single active giving that player a $25M contract. And that is a legitimate concern, which could be mitigated by adding restrictions, such as a secondary cap at, let's say, $15M per EPS contract. You could also place a rule that another team needs to offer the player's TPE bracket max before any team can offer an EPS contract, meaning only players who legitimately deserve max money can get it - obviously, if Team A offers Player X $7M, and then Team B offers EPS @ $12M, then Team A would then be allowed to up their offer into EPS status, as long as their cap space allows. Personally, loading a player's bank account is kind of the point though, as it encourages a player to test the market and push for greater earnings. As I stated in the previous thread, improving the player store would be key in starting the market. With no other need for salary, players can take discounts and hoard for their depreciation seasons, which in turn leads to contending teams hoarding the top players with no real need for movement. There was talk about including better options in the store, that would entice players to spend in their early seasons, which would in turn lead to them seeking out higher dollars in contract negotiations. I would also propose that, along with better personal options, you include team based options as well. In real life, teammates in many sports do things that boost team morale, such as buying gadgets for all teammates, to organizing team trips, etc. It might be a good addition to the player store to add options that allow a player to buy a team upgrade package, which teammates would then link to for their "rewards". If I had my say, these would be some of the additions to the player store: Steroids: Player can max one attribute for one week in the sim ($3M/$6M - Regular Season/Playoffs)** Team Bonding: Free Week for all members of player's team ($5M) Team Workout: Three (3) TPE Uncapped for all members of player's team ($5M) Hockey Camp 1: Player adds Two (2) TPE ($1.5M) Hockey Camp 2: Player adds Five (5) TPE ($3M) Hockey Camp 3: Player adds Twelve (12) TPE ($5M) **Would require the sim to be updated weekly I would also add something like: Forever Remembered: Player can re-name a trophy after winning it more than once in their career ($10M) That last one is not something that would be bought often, considering how much it would cost and how often players do win trophies multiple times, but could be a cool way to let people add their names into the history books even after they retire their players. Just an idea. Anyway, that's pretty much my whole plan on making money matter in the league. Give people something to actually spend it on, and they might actually seek it out. Edited September 6, 2017 by Quik Spade18 and Gudnason 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spade18 1,308 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I'm relatively new to the league and understand there is an year restriction on players but if there was an option to buy additional years for your player for an absorbent amount of money, I would go Free Agent all the time and max out as much as possible. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Price for steroids is way too cheap, and to MAX an attribute for a week? How about try +30 TPE to that attribute still going by update scale? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Spade18 said: I'm relatively new to the league and understand there is an year restriction on players but if there was an option to buy additional years for your player for an absorbent amount of money, I would go Free Agent all the time and max out as much as possible. That could work. Thought it would have to be so expensive that a ninth season is a tough decision and a tenth season is only someone crazy hardcore people who max out their bank on tanking teams for a good 5+ years can afford. Spade18 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) @Quik I like the award reaming too. Maybe that is why @BobertZ is hoarding so much cash. Many people live for glory and having a trophy named after them is like a living legacy. Kudos for the well thought out ideas and for the willingness to put this in motion. Edited September 6, 2017 by punkhippie Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Make buying TPE fun again! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,958 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Trump Aprroved Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Some of these are a little OP and that last one will never fly. I do think the idea of a team-focused purchase is interesting, but it'd have to be balanced around what you can currently buy for an individual. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Fire Hakstol said: Some of these are a little OP and that last one will never fly. I do think the idea of a team-focused purchase is interesting, but it'd have to be balanced around what you can currently buy for an individual. $10M to rename an award will never fly, especially when the prerequisite is that you have already won it? I'll bet my house on that Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 minute ago, punkhippie said: $10M to rename an award will never fly, especially when the prerequisite is that you have already won it? I'll bet my house on that LOL how often do you English? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 minute ago, KGR said: LOL how often do you English? OHAI IM FRESHY OFF BOAT BOAT Spade18 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik 4,113 Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 4 hours ago, punkhippie said: Price for steroids is way too cheap, and to MAX an attribute for a week? How about try +30 TPE to that attribute still going by update scale? Meh, when you consider that the people buying it are going to be the ones with the bankroll to afford that kind of upgrade for ~10-15 games, the stats they'd be maxing would likely already be close to maxed out anyways, or they would be inconsequential things that wouldn't be core attributes. The point is to give incentive to spend, leading to players trying to make the most dollars. 1 hour ago, Fire Hakstol said: Some of these are a little OP and that last one will never fly. I do think the idea of a team-focused purchase is interesting, but it'd have to be balanced around what you can currently buy for an individual. I mean, how often do players win an award multiple times? And of those people, how many would want to spend $10M on naming an award? It's a sim league, yeah it's cool to have historic names, but 10 years in, it wouldn't hurt for them to change anyways. It's just another thing to incentivize money in the league, and very few players would have the success and money hoarding combination to actually use it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Quik said: Meh, when you consider that the people buying it are going to be the ones with the bankroll to afford that kind of upgrade for ~10-15 games, the stats they'd be maxing would likely already be close to maxed out anyways, or they would be inconsequential things that wouldn't be core attributes. The point is to give incentive to spend, leading to players trying to make the most dollars. I mean, how often do players win an award multiple times? And of those people, how many would want to spend $10M on naming an award? It's a sim league, yeah it's cool to have historic names, but 10 years in, it wouldn't hurt for them to change anyways. It's just another thing to incentivize money in the league, and very few players would have the success and money hoarding combination to actually use it. Prices and benefits would need fine tuning but I'm down for the implementation of it eventually Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Quik said: I mean, how often do players win an award multiple times? And of those people, how many would want to spend $10M on naming an award? It's a sim league, yeah it's cool to have historic names, but 10 years in, it wouldn't hurt for them to change anyways. It's just another thing to incentivize money in the league, and very few players would have the success and money hoarding combination to actually use it. The BoG has kicked around adjusting some of the VHL award names to recognize the actions/works for non-original members/players, so they may be changing anyway. I don't think it's a great idea to have them change often though. The VHLM awards were updated not that long ago to basically all "modern" members. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corco 1,267 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 might just fuck around and make VHLM contracts a thing tbh Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-467863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Review I like the idea of changing the store up as it is pretty bland and really all i do is save up for depreciation. Also the renaming player trophies should be a thing that happens ever like 'decade' aka 10 seasons because I am sure no new member will know or really care who Scotty Campbell is or why he has the trophy named after him. but it is time to change them up to reflect who was the best at that time over the 10 season mark should be fun it gives the players a little something to work for Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43752-claimed-make-the-player-store-great-again-12/#findComment-468307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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