Bushito 1,945 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) Offers S58: $2,750,000 @Tylar Edited December 16, 2017 by Bushito Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Come hume Tities S58: $2,750,000 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 Over 24 hours, inactive by definition. Property Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Wut Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Higgins said: Wut Wut you mean wut? The guy hasn't posted in 2 months (Inactive my definition) There have been no offers for over 24 hours, we offered the same and I offered first. As far as I know he is in Calgary unless I'm missing something. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Didn't realize you could offer inactives more than one season Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Higgins said: Didn't realize you could offer inactives more than one season I've been in the rules on and off for 2 days and didn't see anything on that but even so it'd just go to a 1 year deal then I'd assume. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It's kind of funny because he is active in a way, just hasn't posted I guess. He last logged on last week and I was PMing him about the possibility of re-signing in Toronto. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,899 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 STZ 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,360 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Kinda interesting with the recent rule change. I think it’s pretty clear he’s considered an inactive. However, it’ll be interesting if they judge Bushito’s two Year offer valid. Technically on a matched offer he goes to the team with reverse standings priority after 24hrs of day one FA. However, because Bushito adjusted his offer, it would seem as though Helsinki’s offer stood uncontested for 24hs.. Have fun, Commishes! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 hours ago, STZ said: Kinda interesting with the recent rule change. I think it’s pretty clear he’s considered an inactive. However, it’ll be interesting if they judge Bushito’s two Year offer valid. Technically on a matched offer he goes to the team with reverse standings priority after 24hrs of day one FA. However, because Bushito adjusted his offer, it would seem as though Helsinki’s offer stood uncontested for 24hs.. Have fun, Commishes! Mine stood uncontested for 24 hours before any change was made. The only reason a change was made was because someone told me I had to take a year off but that doesn't seem to be the case. As per the rule book he is Calgary property. 4.2 – Unrestricted Free Agents An unrestricted free agent will be determined as a player who has 0 years left on their contract, a player who declined a player option/the GM declining a team option or not officially picking up the option at the time of the start of free agency, and is not a restricted free agent under the definition described in Section 4.1 A contract must meet TPE – Salary minimums for every season in the contract After the trade deadline has passed, teams may not sign a player from free agency until the conclusion of the playoffs A player may accept a contract at any time after the contract is offered, unless there is a limit on free agency length in the off-season. If a player is inactive, then if the thread does not see a raise after 24 hrs, they will go to the team with the highest $ value bid. When offering a contract to an inactive, the dollar amount has to be within the contract scales during non-option seasons thus preventing a team from offering a back-end loaded contract that is all based on conditional team options. All contract offers must be publicly posted in the thread. Any raise on a previous offer for inactives must be by a minimum of $250 000. Free Agent Contracts will have a cap hit equal to the salary earned during that given year As described in Section 1.5, one-season contract extensions to inactive players are valid as long as the team offers the player a contract extension AND the player doesn't decline it before the start of free agency AND that player hasn't posted in 30 days leading up to the start of free agency. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,360 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, Bushito said: Mine stood uncontested for 24 hours before any change was made. The only reason a change was made was because someone told me I had to take a year off but that doesn't seem to be the case. As per the rule book he is Calgary property. 4.2 – Unrestricted Free Agents An unrestricted free agent will be determined as a player who has 0 years left on their contract, a player who declined a player option/the GM declining a team option or not officially picking up the option at the time of the start of free agency, and is not a restricted free agent under the definition described in Section 4.1 A contract must meet TPE – Salary minimums for every season in the contract After the trade deadline has passed, teams may not sign a player from free agency until the conclusion of the playoffs A player may accept a contract at any time after the contract is offered, unless there is a limit on free agency length in the off-season. If a player is inactive, then if the thread does not see a raise after 24 hrs, they will go to the team with the highest $ value bid. When offering a contract to an inactive, the dollar amount has to be within the contract scales during non-option seasons thus preventing a team from offering a back-end loaded contract that is all based on conditional team options. All contract offers must be publicly posted in the thread. Any raise on a previous offer for inactives must be by a minimum of $250 000. Free Agent Contracts will have a cap hit equal to the salary earned during that given year As described in Section 1.5, one-season contract extensions to inactive players are valid as long as the team offers the player a contract extension AND the player doesn't decline it before the start of free agency AND that player hasn't posted in 30 days leading up to the start of free agency. I guess the counter argument is was it a valid offer that was uncontested for 24 hrs. also, FYI here’s the revamped inactive rule changes Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, STZ said: I guess the counter argument is was it a valid offer that was uncontested for 24 hrs. also, FYI here’s the revamped inactive rule changes They should add that to the rules section, would make sense anyway. So money doesn't matter, years don't matter, it comes down to priority. We both claimed and I have highest priority. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 Read the rules and it seems neither team made a claim but instead made offers. Since neither offer was accepted I will use my top priority to claim Zayn. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-490729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,033 Posted December 21, 2017 Commissioner Share Posted December 21, 2017 Property via Inactive Claim Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/45974-s58-s52-sami-zayn/#findComment-492012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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