bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (Like my topic if you want to see more!) There have been a lot of trades, but none of them were big, blockbuster trades like we usually see every offseason. I’m not going to say the trades weren’t big because each trade has some form of significance and reasoning behind it. TRADE No.1 - (Jeff Skinner to the Buffalo Sabres for forward prospect Cliff Pu, 2019 2nd round draft pick, and 3rd and 6th round draft picks in the 2020 draft.) We all are probably thinking, Buffalo came out like freaking gang busters in this trade when in reality it was a decent trade. Jeff Skinner is on the last year of the contract he signed in 2013. Skinner probably wouldn’t have re-signed with Carolina and would probably go to free agency. Also, usually when a player is on the last year of their contract, they are worth a lot less. Since Skinner haven’t signed a new contract with Buffalo, he’s basically a rental to them. Luckily Buffalo didn’t give up too much for Skinner in case he decides to not re-sign a contract with them. Let’s talk about what Carolina got. Carolina got a decent forward prospect in Cliff Pu. Cliff Pu had a lot of injuries which really set him back a bit. He’s nothing special, but he’s a decent top 6 puck mover. Let’s not forget that Carolina is still in a rebuilding phase, firstly. They got a 2019 second round pick which will help them grab somebody decent (or possibly elite. The 2019 draft is supposed to be very deep so a second round pick is nice. They also got a 3rd and 6th round pick for the 2020 draft. The 3rd and 6th round shouldn’t get them somebody elite, but they might find somebody with decent upside. From recent talks, there was no indication that another team was in interested in trading for Jeff Skinner so the trade wasn’t too bad. TRADE No. 2 - (Dougie Hamilton, Michael Ferland, and defensive prospect Adam Fox for Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin) I guess you could argue that this was a blockbuster trade, but it wasn’t huge. Let’s talk about what the Carolina Hurricanes got. Carolina got Dougie Hamilton, Michael Ferland, and Adam Fox. Michael Ferland and Adam Fox were basically extras so let’s set them aside. The main piece was Dougie Hamilton. We have to question, why did Carolina trade away a quality, young defenseman for 25 year old Dougie Hamilton? Is Carolina really in a rebuild or did they just not believe in Noah Hanifin’s development. Hamilton has proved himself over a longer period of time versus Hanifin who experienced his first season in the NHL last season. I can’t go in the general managers’ heads to see what they were thinking, but I think Carolina wanted a solidified defenseman and Calgary wanted a younger defenseman to develop more. (Like my topic!) diamond_ace, Beaviss and PH8 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 How is O'Reilly to STL not a blockbuster? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, McWolf said: How is O'Reilly to STL not a blockbuster? I personally don’t think any of the trades this offeseason have been “blockbuster.” Obviously, my opinion on the word is different from other people’s opinions. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Carolina was making trades for the sake of making trades Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, Beaviss said: Carolina was making trades for the sake of making trades True, lol. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Beaviss said: Carolina was making trades for the sake of making trades When you got good pieces but they don't fit together or just plain won't develop past their current level (Lindholm lol), it's not a bad idea to just shake shit up a bit. I'm sad to see Skinner go though, he was their best player basically since he got there. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH8 3 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Damn real life, not VHL? I was waiting to see some of my Cologne trades on this thing Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, PH8 said: Damn real life, not VHL? I was waiting to see some of my Cologne trades on this thing @bagelbitesisbae Id love to see a VHL Version of this Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, Beaviss said: @bagelbitesisbae Id love to see a VHL Version of this Then like my topic and I’ll make it for you. :)) (+ points are basically my “income.”) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, bagelbitesisbae said: Then like my topic and I’ll make it for you. :)) (+ points are basically my “income.”) payment finalized Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I think rentals get way more then Skinner all the time. Look at Nash last year as an example of that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tyler said: I think rentals get way more then Skinner all the time. Look at Nash last year as an example of that. as long as Skins scores about as much as last season, which should be fairly easy with Eichel, Buffalo wins that trade in my book Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, McWolf said: as long as Skins scores about as much as last season, which should be fairly easy with Eichel, Buffalo wins that trade in my book Yeah exactly. Unless he gets hurt (can't predict that) or he scores 15 goals then there's no way the Sabres didn't win this one easily. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52878-were-the-trades-beneficial-for-both-teams-trades-analysis/#findComment-549388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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