Admin Victor 10,940 Posted July 24, 2019 Admin Share Posted July 24, 2019 Focusing on Holik as he has Moon beat in all stats other than GAA and has a Shaw to Moon's 0. Granted Moon had better playoff stats but that's a different matter. See the Ay Ay Ron article for context on why I'm doing this: https://vhlforum.com/topic/66572-would-ay-ay-ron-be-the-worst-defenceman-in-the-hof/ There have been 20 goalies inducted into the Hall of Fame, but I'm going to exclude the 3 guys who played between S1 and S7 (Maxim Desny, Matthew Pogge, Adrian McCreath) as their stats don't hold up. So if the other 17 became 18, where would Holik rank in the key stats? Wins: 292 (12th) Behind him: Sandro Clegane, Alex Gegeny, Benoit Devereux (slightly shorter careers), Apollo Skye, Norris Stopko, Remy LeBeau (better playoff performances, more awards) Save%: .922 (13th) – tied with Hans Wingate and Norris Stopko Behing him: Remy LeBeau, Daisuke Kanou, Brick Wahl (all got in on the strength of their playoffs) GAA: 2.00 (4th) – behind only Greg Clegane, CAL G, and Tuomas Tukio Shutouts: 88 (2nd) – behind only Greg Clegane The strength of Holik is his GAA and shutouts but these need to be supported by a strong save % otherwise are obviously inflated by team success (and Holik played in an era where 6/10 teams at least were pretty bad). But the margins for goalie stats are so thin (e.g. .922 save % for Holik vs .929 for Gegeny (the all-time leader). LeBeau in the meantime might be the worst modern goalie in the HOF (behind Holik in all stats) as he's part of the playoff club but actually not that stand-out in the playoffs (outside of S37). But then Holik's playoff stats are so far behind everyone else that he would probably take the “crown”. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Stats hurt my feelings, don't be mean about Lebeau Victor 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted July 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Green said: Stats hurt my feelings, don't be mean about Lebeau In my heart he is LeGod but in my head I think we all got hype from that time you swept Davos lol. NotAVHLM-GM 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted July 24, 2019 Commissioner Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Green said: Stats hurt my feelings, don't be mean about Lebeau Your feelings? He just wrote a whole 590 calling me terrible. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Beketov said: Your feelings? He just wrote a whole 590 calling me terrible. My priorities lie more towards Lebeau, but let's call it our feelings then. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik 4,113 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Beketov said: Your feelings? He just wrote a whole 590 calling me terrible. Imagine how @Beaviss feels Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Quik said: Imagine how @Beaviss feels I haven't seen the Louth being bad article yet. I can't wait though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.sniffuM 1,741 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Beketov said: Your feelings? He just wrote a whole 590 calling me terrible. I wouldn't say those numbers look terrible. Wins are tough to pin on a goalie, and while your save percentage isn't way up there, there are still a few HOF goalies below you and those shutout numbers are juicy. In my book Holik is a Hall of Famer. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted July 24, 2019 Commissioner Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, .sniffuM said: I wouldn't say those numbers look terrible. Wins are tough to pin on a goalie, and while your save percentage isn't way up there, there are still a few HOF goalies below you and those shutout numbers are juicy. In my book Holik is a Hall of Famer. What isn’t shown is Holik’s playoff numbers. If there’s a major thing holding him back it would be that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Beketov said: Your feelings? He just wrote a whole 590 calling me terrible. Disclaimer: anyone in HOF discussion had a r pretty damn gold career Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/66573-would-jakab-holik-be-the-worst-goalie-in-the-hof/#findComment-648264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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