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No I've received 1 explanation multiple times that is just some standard applied to me and my player but not to the other player voted against me. That's all.

Also, that's a sample size of like 18 Slobo winners meeting that criteria, so it does happen, often.

Precedent: every Slobo winner who garnered over half the Slobo votes has won both awards, except 2 times. S58 and S78? (Could have the seasons wrong) but in 1 of those examples the Slobo was won by a player on the worst team in the league, and the other only 14 total votes for the Slobo we're cast, winner got 9 total votes. And so we are denying even the possibility that the two should go to the same player? Can I choose to recuse myself from the Slobo voting in the future then?

I think when people down play his contributions to the 2nd best defensive season by a team EVER by saying shit like.. oh but their offense was pretty good, that's inadequate personally. All I ask, if for one person to give me a legitimate reason, ONE, and I won't care so much. But I've heard no such explanation other than "he contributed more to them making the playoffs" based on what? Explain this to me. And "Malmo's offense" which is magically not a consideration for Toronto when their Defense was more impactful than their offense to winning.

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That's also controversial, put Beyonce to pasture just like we did Callahan, both well past their prime...

They gave up the 8th most shots in the league and only had the 3rd most goals against. Pretty simple line of logic says that that is an indicator of strong goaltending. Then I'm simply quantifying that defense mattered more to them winning based on them having the league wide 3rd best GA and only 5th GF. 5th GA despite being 3rd in shots for as well. Compare that to Malmo where their strongest unit was defense. And normally I wouldn't bring up Toronto's goaltending to tear down Callahan but it literally was the exact argument used against Løvstrøm by no less than 3 people I've talked to. "Malmo's offense is a factor" then why is the incredibly strong goaltending of Toronto not a factor. People seem to forget how Malmo was perceived BEFORE S97, 3rd best in the EU. Like 5-6 in the league. We outperformed expectations and Toronto met them.

Bc the MVP is the most important award in the league and being 2nd doesn't really mean shit bc it isn't tracked anywhere. I could have lost by 13 votes and still feel the same bc it isn't a win.

So we are just ignoring the tangible team stats that show Vidarsson had a crippling disadvantage with a mid defense corps in front of him and still produced the 3rd best defensive team in the league and was easily the 2nd or 3rd best goalie in the league. He would be clearly an MVP candidate and potential Shaw winner without Jørgen existing last season. Like the stats are the stats, Callahan had MVP caliber support in net, period. You can choose to ignore that to justify things but it is a FACT. His team's defense was more valuable to their success than their offense as a whole.

And from my perspective, it fucking sucks that I genuinely feel like I got punished for the BOG picking kind of mediocre goalie seasons for the MVP in the past couple of runs. If y'all want to internally be like, hey we need to better evaluate how we judge skaters compared to goalies, that's one thing. But don't drag me down and justify it with nonsense. The precedent was made well before my season, and it was shattered and that feels personal. Even if it wasn't.

I do take issue with 1 thing that I've heard a couple of times though, people keep telling me "Callahan did more to get his team in the playoffs" which 1. Sounds like me playing in the EU impacted things bc the conference had a far weaker 5 seed than the NA and 2. Implies that bc of Malmo's offense was generally good, Løvstrøm was less impressive. On that 2nd point, let's actually dive into the numbers for a moment and look at the REAL reason Toronto made the playoffs. Dalkr Vidarsson and his team, were 8th in Shots Against. Still not terrible as it is top half of the league but the team overall was 3rd in goals against. Compared to being 5th in goals for. These numbers tell me personally, the largest impact on Toronto's success was their goaltender. I think people acting like Callahan was on a team devoid of other talent is fucking stupid. And I personally think, Dalkr was the Legion's MVP based on the numbers I just laid out. Even if you don't, his case is at the least competitive with Callahan's. Who was Malmo's other MVP candidate? Who else on that team did anything remotely deserving of MVP consideration? That's my larger issue. A player on a team with a CLEAR MVP and overall better team outcome with the stats to back it up vs one with a less clear contention and worse team results.

Also, I put up those numbers compared to the other .930+ goalies AFTER they nerfed goalies a bit with the sliders. So...

And the VHL Awards post does have all of the awards, just not in an entire list. But you still have access to multiple other ways of finding this information.

Yeah I personally don't see much function for this change. Like if the goal is to compare your prediction results, as stated earlier, you'll get those results in less than a week. And that post will give you more information by also showing which predictions you specifically got correct.

Team sold

Campbell... Was a straight up mugging by the BOG.

Yeah in Lucy's POV, you gave her a player for not a player... So she is winning I guess?

The predictions literally get paid out within a week of the awards and all winners are listed on the predictions post.

What do this mean?

It's on his YouTube, it's really dope

Løvstrøm was robbed T-T

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Speak for yourself, Mutti is now no longer Løvstrøm's best friend for giving his computer the PC equivalent of an STD!

Also to be clear, if you look at the voting in that S58/59 example (I may have had the season wrong) only 14 total Slobo votes, winner got 9 of them, so not really a strong example. And I can't see the voting results before that, so essentially this is an All Time First as far as I'm aware