Kesler 1,514 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 so apparently canucks are close to resigning Sutter to a 5 years deal with an average of 4.4 million.... what the actualy fuck Jim Benning I would like him closer to 4 but honestly if he can be our number 2 center men for that kind of money that is very very solid. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-250991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I would like him closer to 4 but honestly if he can be our number 2 center men for that kind of money that is very very solid. i would like that too, but probably by mid november Bo Horvat will probably take over as the 2nd line center and Sutter will most likely be a very overpaid 3rd liner Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-250992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 i would like that too, but probably by mid november Bo Horvat will probably take over as the 2nd line center and Sutter will most likely be a very overpaid 3rd liner Hmm that could happen but I am assuming the Canucks are gonna have a 2a and a 2b lineup with no third line next season. and probably until the sedins are gone. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-250999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Voracek 8,25M Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Voracek 8,25M Good deal for a good player. Hmm that could happen but I am assuming the Canucks are gonna have a 2a and a 2b lineup with no third line next season. and probably until the sedins are gone. You don't want Sutter in an offensive role. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 8.25 millions is a lot for a player who has been good for his career but did exceptionally well in a contract year. I have a feeling the flyers will regret this deal. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Good deal for a good player. You don't want Sutter in an offensive role. still scored 21 goals, but yes, creativity wise, not really. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 8.25 millions is a lot for a player who has been good for his career but did exceptionally well in a contract year. I have a feeling the flyers will regret this deal. He's 10th in PPG the past 3 years. His "one good season" has been pretty long. 189 points in his last 212 games. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 He's 10th in PPG the past 3 years. His "one good season" has been pretty long. 189 points in his last 212 games. Since he career started hes put up 38, 50, 46, 49, 46 (lockout), 62 and 81. it argued that hes had 2 great seasons. I'm not way saying that he is a bad player, but 8.25 is a lot of cap. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixersfan594 247 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 8.25 for long term. This is the post lockout terms. Check out ROR Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Since he career started hes put up 38, 50, 46, 49, 46 (lockout), 62 and 81. it argued that hes had 2 great seasons. I'm not way saying that he is a bad player, but 8.25 is a lot of cap. The deal buys 6(?) years of UFA. That's gonna cost a whole lot of money. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 galchenyuk signed 2 years 2,8M Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Thats a lot for Voracek but well worth it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I'm just gonna leave this here. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-251054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Vegas and Quebec into phase 2 of expansion Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-253205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaOs 22 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 jesus christ 8.25 mil Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-254594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Galchenyuk playing center this year Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'm at a point with the Canucks where I just expect stupid things. Like inviting a guy that got 9 points and 188 PIMs to training camp instead of one of the actual hockey players still looking for a contract. Or the fact that Luca Sbisa got more money and term than Cody Franson. Or... pretty much everything that's happened this summer. Oh, and reports out of closed practices indicate Markstrom still has the same issues he did last season. Fun times. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 It depends, I think the canucks are in a phase where they want to produce NHL players from their system. I don't know about that goon, don't know if he is local or something, but I'm sure they are trying to get better...I guess Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle 667 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 At least your team isn't beating up their wives, getting caught with cocaine and oxy at the border. God damnit. boubabi 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) At least your team isn't beating up their wives, getting caught with cocaine and oxy at the border. God damnit. Edited September 11, 2015 by boubabi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 It depends, I think the canucks are in a phase where they want to produce NHL players from their system. I don't know about that goon, don't know if he is local or something, but I'm sure they are trying to get better...I guess Yet they are adding veteran players that push younger players out of the lineup. Benning has contradicted what he says with most of his moves this off-season. I'm sure they are trying to get better, I just happen to think that he doesn't know what the hell he's doing and is making bad moves as a result. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 not because you invite someone to the camp that they will take their place. Marc Bergevin's mentality is that a young player needs to force the coach and a GM to make his place, not taking it for granted. If the Canucks are doing so, I can only agree with them. Now its about their judgement. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) not because you invite someone to the camp that they will take their place. Marc Bergevin's mentality is that a young player needs to force the coach and a GM to make his place, not taking it for granted. If the Canucks are doing so, I can only agree with them. Now its about their judgement. Prust pushed Kenins out of the lineup, who had more than earned a spot IMO. Throw in Miller over Lack, throwing in Clendening + 2nd for no reason on the Sutter deal, etc. These are moves that contradict the mantra of getting younger and building through the draft we keep getting shoved down our throats. The invite doesn't hurt anyone, it just seems like a pointless move when there are better players still looking for contracts. Why not invite someone like Sean Bergenheim? Hell, Manny Malhotra is skating with the players right now. Chances are he isn't going to make the team, but he more that fills that "intangibles" quota that Benning obsesses over. Edited September 11, 2015 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Malhotra is pretty bad in the new NHL. I mean, yes, a very good veteran, but offensively, he brings nothing. That's why someone like del a rose /mitchell pushed him from the line up. And prust is pretty garbage (as a Habs fan) but don't know how he will do in the west. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/106/#findComment-268442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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