DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 That was hilarious. You could clearly hear the "**** YEAH!! WOOO!! **** YEAH!!" after that goal. Man, the Canucks love to collapse and sit on leads in the 3rd period. They're lucky to even get out of that one with a point with the way that the Hawks were in their zone like 75% of the period. Vintage Sedinery on those twins goals tonight. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 2,000 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I found buff to be better as an F, can use his physicality and not give away costly defensive zone turnovers. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I found buff to be better as an F, can use his physicality and not give away costly defensive zone turnovers. i found u to be better as a cool guy but we can't all get what we want now can we fgt Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Add me to the list of Sterling/Kendrick/Smarch and people who seem to get hockey. How at all is Buff better at D? OH MY GOD STATS ARE EVERYTHING! Ask Chicago how good he was at forward. They only probably won a Cup because Buff was able to agitate, forecheck, and all around manhandle/frustrate Pronger arguably one of the top defenders in the playoffs the year Chicago won that year. Buff is also a defensive liability. Sure he has a cannon of a shot. So you know what you do? Make him a power play roamer who comes from the point to the front of the net depending on how the opponent is penalty killing. Done. Otherwise he works great in the slot, and as a screening/crease crashing powerhouse up front. CoachReilly 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Or because Leighton was a sieve and our 3rd pairing was playing 7 minutes a game. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIM-11 134 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yup there's people who think Buff is better as a forward. Fair enough. I don't agree at all. Not sure why people need to go on about how much smarter they are, or how much more they understand the sport of hockey simply because they have a different opinion on stuff like this. Not to mention I need him to produce like a banshee form the blueline to keep generating me fantasy hockey points. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIM-11 134 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Or because Leighton was a sieve and our 3rd pairing was playing 7 minutes a game. I don't think it mattered much, but that's just my opinion. That was one of the easiest Finals to predict in many years. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Add me to the list of Sterling/Kendrick/Smarch and people who seem to get hockey. How at all is Buff better at D? OH MY GOD STATS ARE EVERYTHING! Ask Chicago how good he was at forward. They only probably won a Cup because Buff was able to agitate, forecheck, and all around manhandle/frustrate Pronger arguably one of the top defenders in the playoffs the year Chicago won that year. Buff is also a defensive liability. Sure he has a cannon of a shot. So you know what you do? Make him a power play roamer who comes from the point to the front of the net depending on how the opponent is penalty killing. Done. Otherwise he works great in the slot, and as a screening/crease crashing powerhouse up front. ovr weact mch dewise? geesh #Munk4Commish Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Fine then I try to have a little fun with my opinion when I present it and I get shit on haha. I guess I'll just stick to my boring uninteresting long posts with no offensive text that nobody reads. Also Caps stole two points out of the Shark Tank. #Beagletime Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Also Flyers Leighton wasn't great but the series did go 6. Pronger was a big factor for you guys all playoffs long. There was other reasons you lost too of course but Buff was a stud in front that whole playoffs and in that series. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Fine then I try to have a little fun with my opinion when I present it and I get shit on haha. I guess I'll just stick to my boring uninteresting long posts with no offensive text that nobody reads. Also Caps stole two points out of the Shark Tank. #Beagletime My post was a joke haha. Big Brent Burns got 2 mesh tinglers though! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,021 Posted February 12, 2015 Admin Share Posted February 12, 2015 didnt kno u lived on a plant sry for u how many ppl? underrated post of the year. I actually laughed. Munk 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 btw, this is why DLR is taking the place of Malhotra http://gfycat.com/PettySpanishEastrussiancoursinghounds# Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Add me to the list of Sterling/Kendrick/Smarch and people who seem to get hockey. How at all is Buff better at D? OH MY GOD STATS ARE EVERYTHING! Ask Chicago how good he was at forward. They only probably won a Cup because Buff was able to agitate, forecheck, and all around manhandle/frustrate Pronger arguably one of the top defenders in the playoffs the year Chicago won that year. Buff is also a defensive liability. Sure he has a cannon of a shot. So you know what you do? Make him a power play roamer who comes from the point to the front of the net depending on how the opponent is penalty killing. Done. Otherwise he works great in the slot, and as a screening/crease crashing powerhouse up front. I have to go to go get ready for work so I'll just post this: http://jetsnation.ca/2015/2/11/what-s-the-cost-of-dustin-byfuglien-at-forward-versus-defense Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Sandro as much as some of the advanced statistics are things that I do think have merit a lot of times, I still am one of those hockey "purists" that subscribes to the notion that there are intangibles to the game that aren't measured. Things like a key fight, or a key hit a point in the game being more important than just a "hit" on the score sheet. Buffs presence in front of the net, his agitation skills, his ability to consistently get a goalie or a prominent defender off their game, and to focus on him instead of a star player are things I felt he did well. He did them amazingly imo in that playoff run with Chicago. The fact that he potted 17 goals as a forward to me is proof that he still gets on the scoresheet enough to justify running with the other aspects. Plus he isn't stepping up to make a big hit, and then leaving opportunities for odd man rushes, something I think he's been guilty of more with the Jets. But you guys are entitled to your opinion, and there is denying as an offensive minded defender he puts up good points. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIM-11 134 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'd have to check, but I'd feel the odds are better the Jets actually have a better record with Buff on the blueline than up front as well. The idea that Byfuglien is weak defensively is also mostly myth from what I can tell. Not sure where it came from but I'm fairly certain he's been a positive possession player on the blueline his whole career (or most of it) and the eye test seems to support this as well in my books. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Sandro that articles mentioned something that a select few (including myself) are saying. Where Buff plays the best, isn't necessarily the best for the team. So as some say he is better on the blueline for himself, it appears the team plays better with him up front. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Sandro that articles mentioned something that a select few (including myself) are saying. Where Buff plays the best, isn't necessarily the best for the team. So as some say he is better on the blueline for himself, it appears the team plays better with him up front. All I ever said is that he's a better defenseman than he is a forward. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 All I ever said is that he's a better defenseman than he is a forward. True, just saying that all most of the people who disagree are saying is that they'd prefer him as a forward because the team plays better that way and they feel he fits that spot better. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIM-11 134 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Unless I am reading the article wrong he basically is saying 'theoretically' there could be a situation where it's worse for the team when Byfuglien is on defense, but his own analysis (which I think is pretty out there to be honest) doesn't even support that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Buffy the vampire is gd at fwd or or heeh.. he'd be best at GOALIE LOL Edited February 13, 2015 by Munk Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Buffy the vampire is gd at fwd buffy the luongo slayer Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Buff may have to play on the blueline anyways, considering Myers just took a shot off his hand? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 He's actually better at goaltending. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12151-2014-2015-nhl-discussion/page/49/#findComment-182705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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