Spartan 4,530 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Hello, I come bearing a couple rule changes to fix some inconsistencies identified in the VHLM rulebook. Quote 1.1. Releasing Inactive Players Players cannot use inactivity to be removed from a team. If an inactive player comes back and becomes active later in the same season they were released from their previous team, this team has a priority claim on them. They can elect to bring them back on the team as if they never released them, or they can let them become a waiver or a free agent, depending on if they were previously VHLM drafted or not. (i.e. Halifax releases Sven Eightnine after he's been inactive for 21 days. Eightnine updates again later in the same season. Halifax has the choice between bringing them back to their team directly, or letting them sign with another team.) This section currently states that teams who drop (drafted) players due to IA status may only have priority for the remainder of that season. Given that this is inconsistent with the 3 season draft rights and our desire to avoid IA statuses being used to switch teams after a season, we will be adjusting it to the following by adding the following bullet: Quote 1.1. Releasing Inactive Players Players cannot use inactivity to be removed from a team. If an inactive player comes back and becomes active later in the same season they were released from their previous team, this team has a priority claim on them. They can elect to bring them back on the team as if they never released them, or they can let them become a waiver or a free agent, depending on if they were previously VHLM drafted or not. (i.e. Halifax releases Sven Eightnine after he's been inactive for 21 days. Eightnine updates again later in the same season. Halifax has the choice between bringing them back to their team directly, or letting them sign with another team.) Rights to re-sign drafted, formerly IA players will extend to the same 3 season period. (Ex. if Sven Eightnine was drafted to MIS in the S94 VHLM Draft, and goes IA during S94, but updates during the first week of the S95 season, MIS would retain priority to re-sign the player without counting towards their FA cap.) In addition, the following section will be re-written due to being outdated: Quote 3.3. Discussions with Waivers Discussions between General Managers and newly created players are to happen directly in the player's creation thread. The player has to publicly accept the offer from a team before the team sends it over on the portal. This section will now look as follows: Quote 3.3. Discussions with Waivers General Managers are not permitted to speak with newly created players to influence their decision to sign with their team as a waiver player. Newly created players are to use the portal "Join a Team" process on their Manage Player page to identify which team they would like to play for. Teams are not allowed to send waiver offers to players without an intent to join message being sent by the player via the portal. That is all, farewell. - @VHLM Commissioner @VHLM GM for awareness ace_five_, LucyXpher, Thunder and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,121 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 20 minutes ago, Spartan said: I come bearing Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW 2,190 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Good changes! Thanks commish mattyIceman and Spartan 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,468 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Aren’t all VHLM rule changes minor ones? dstevensonjr 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,530 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, Gustav said: Aren’t all VHLM rule changes minor ones? When can we open a job posting for your replacement? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory 1,943 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Might as well codify VHLM gms aren’t allowed to have fun next Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,530 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 Just now, rory said: Might as well codify VHLM gms aren’t allowed to have fun next Good idea tbh, will begin working on that one Mongoose87 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,121 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, rory said: Might as well codify VHLM gms aren’t allowed to have fun next 3.3. Discussions with Waivers General Managers are not permitted to speak with newly created players to influence their decision to sign with their team as a waiver player. Newly created players are to use the portal "Join a Team" process on their Manage Player page to identify which team they would like to play for. Teams are not allowed to send waiver offers to players without an intent to join message being sent by the player via the portal. Yeah, that's a weird one. I guess they can still talk, just can't make a pitch and not influencing them helps not stack the teams or whatever. Makes for more fairness and maybe even out teams which in turn should positively affect retention if you don't have super power teams and absolute ass ones.. I still think there's nothing wrong with pitches but eh. We'll see how it goes. VHLM GM's, imo, should be reaching out to new players and members that have joined the league. I'm certain retention is built into their job description and pay. It shouldn't start once the player is on their team. You're the first step for the player and for the entire league. It partially rests on the M GM's to engage and retain new members too imo (among recruitment team, commissioners and every other member - but more so the ones who are paid for it). As mentioned, we'll see how it goes. Can't judge a system without seeing how it works first. Hopefully it increases retention and GM activity surrounding it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,530 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 16 minutes ago, Banackock said: 3.3. Discussions with Waivers General Managers are not permitted to speak with newly created players to influence their decision to sign with their team as a waiver player. Newly created players are to use the portal "Join a Team" process on their Manage Player page to identify which team they would like to play for. Teams are not allowed to send waiver offers to players without an intent to join message being sent by the player via the portal. Yeah, that's a weird one. I guess they can still talk, just can't make a pitch and not influencing them helps not stack the teams or whatever. Makes for more fairness and maybe even out teams which in turn should positively affect retention if you don't have super power teams and absolute ass ones.. I still think there's nothing wrong with pitches but eh. We'll see how it goes. VHLM GM's, imo, should be reaching out to new players and members that have joined the league. I'm certain retention is built into their job description and pay. It shouldn't start once the player is on their team. You're the first step for the player and for the entire league. It partially rests on the M GM's to engage and retain new members too imo (among recruitment team, commissioners and every other member - but more so the ones who are paid for it). As mentioned, we'll see how it goes. Can't judge a system without seeing how it works first. Hopefully it increases retention and GM activity surrounding it. Mentioned it on discord so I'll say it here as well, this has been a policy in place since the current waiver system has been a thing. It's not banning a GM from talking to new players, it's just ensuring that any discussions you have with new players are strictly to welcome them to the league and assist if they need assistance. Intentionally trying to position yourself to curry their favor and influence their waiver decision is what we're trying to dissuade, as that just takes away the point of the current system. We've long been reminding GMs to be welcoming new users and being available to assist in the main server because they're still encouraged to be part of the initial engagement process. Banackock and AJW 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1026880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,129 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Aww, I thought it was going to be: Phil will be allowed to win a Founder's Cup, out of pity. This rule expires after this season. Sad times Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/148409-minor-vhlm-rule-changes/#findComment-1027007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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