CowboyinAmerica 2,889 Posted Monday at 08:38 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:38 PM (edited) A bunker beneath Vasteras -- As we near the VHL trade deadline, GMs are approaching divergent paths. Some are looking to shore up short-term needs. Others are looking more long-term with the rebuilds. And, if rumors are to be believed, some are looking very, very long-term. According to anonymous reports, there is one deal being worked out that would see Team A trade a current defenseman to Team B for a future pick and a S96 third. However, very importantly, that pick would be a conditional pick that would not convey until Season 168. If Team B merely makes the playoffs in Season 166, Team B would send a S168 second that would return for the S96 third. But if Team B makes the finals in Season 166, a S168 first would be heading back to Team A. This sort of groundbreaking deal is only possible due to VHL leadership's interpretation of a recent trade between Vancouver and Warsaw. According to this interpretation, it doesn't matter when the future pick actually is - as long as it's eligible to be traded when the condition is met. Since S168 picks are eligible to be traded following the S166 playoffs, this trade occurring in Season 96 would seemingly be totally legal if executed. "It's a gray area," our tipster said, pointing to a rather black-and-white area of the VHL rulebook. "The two GMs and the player wanting to be traded told me so." Already, reports say that Team A is excited for which future great-grandchildren of future VHL stars they will receive in the future. All they have to hope for is that the VHL won't contract either team, or that the VHL still exists, or that we avoid the heat death of the universe. But, sources add, that is a chance all are willing to take. I don't actually care about any of this, I just find the insistence that it's totally fine very funny. Edited Monday at 08:39 PM by CowboyinAmerica Gaikoku-hito, Alex, LucyXpher and 5 others 3 2 2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted Monday at 09:54 PM Admin Share Posted Monday at 09:54 PM 1 hour ago, CowboyinAmerica said: I don't actually care about any of this, I just find the insistence that it's totally fine very funny. I love the argument being made that it's a grey area when it is one of the clearest rules written, with an actual example provided, specifically to close the loophole currently being exploited. I would know as I wrote it. tcookie and rory 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,024 Posted Monday at 10:13 PM Commissioner Share Posted Monday at 10:13 PM 19 minutes ago, Victor said: I love the argument being made that it's a grey area when it is one of the clearest rules written, with an actual example provided, specifically to close the loophole currently being exploited. I would know as I wrote it. I don’t find the way it’s written is as clear as you think it is but maybe it’s just me. Either way Frank will likely just get a S97 or S98 pick to make good on things and this will all be a non-existent footnote. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted Monday at 10:15 PM Admin Share Posted Monday at 10:15 PM 1 minute ago, Beketov said: I don’t find the way it’s written is as clear as you think it is but maybe it’s just me. That's worrying, but I agree with the overall sentiment that it won't actually matter. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 3,198 Posted Monday at 10:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:27 PM Honestly my main concern here is that it opens the door to trading things that you don't have, and honestly is just unfair for every other team. IF Vancouver wins a cup this season there's a massive asterisk next to it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted Monday at 10:31 PM Admin Share Posted Monday at 10:31 PM 2 minutes ago, Alex said: Honestly my main concern here is that it opens the door to trading things that you don't have, and honestly is just unfair for every other team. IF Vancouver wins a cup this season there's a massive asterisk next to it. Vancouver winning cups with massive asterisks?? I don't believe it! Alex 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,024 Posted Monday at 10:57 PM Commissioner Share Posted Monday at 10:57 PM 26 minutes ago, Victor said: Vancouver winning cups with massive asterisks?? I don't believe it! Time to send them back to Quebec! Except of course @Frank would love that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,208 Posted Monday at 11:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:04 PM 32 minutes ago, Victor said: Vancouver winning cups with massive asterisks?? I don't believe it! Don't hate the player hate the GM. Victor 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted Monday at 11:07 PM Admin Share Posted Monday at 11:07 PM 2 minutes ago, Frank said: Don't hate the player hate the GM. I do x Frank 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,401 Posted Monday at 11:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:09 PM 41 minutes ago, Alex said: Honestly my main concern here is that it opens the door to trading things that you don't have, and honestly is just unfair for every other team. IF Vancouver wins a cup this season there's a massive asterisk next to it. Tbf WAR trading Syko for a 4th when they got him for free and 0 market otherwise this season probably wouldn't have gotten vetoed outright. I don't think I'd have pushed it through myself though, it'd have been a Blues decision. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152776-rumor-teams-discussing-swap-of-s168-picks/#findComment-1043781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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