Lemorse7 1,030 Posted Monday at 04:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:39 PM wildcard teams should just be the 4 best teams remaining so like still the 3-3 from each division and then the four best team that aren't in the top 3 in each conference example if the season started today Davos Chi toronto and Ny would be the WC team SO Davos would play Toronto and Chicago NY this help with competition as most of the recent year 1 team usually get shot in the foot by just not being in the "bad" conference it used to be NA now its EU. I believe the change isnt too complicated it might be for the index that I dont know as a team from NA might continue to play against the 1st team in EU sadie, N0HBDY and v.2 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0HBDY 1,141 Posted Monday at 06:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:59 PM I’m open to a playoff format change, I don’t speak for the commies, however as a simmer I’m sure a lot of the decision on if we did change the format is how adaptable is this idea with STHS. It might take some playing around with the settings or it might not even be possible, at the moment I have no clue but if I had to guess this idea wouldn’t work with sths because it’s a cross conference matchup? You can change playoff teams but idk how it would affect things afterwards, not a bad idea tho Lemorse7 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstevensonjr 462 Posted Monday at 07:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:13 PM 13 minutes ago, N0HBDY said: I’m open to a playoff format change, I don’t speak for the commies, however as a simmer I’m sure a lot of the decision on if we did change the format is how adaptable is this idea with STHS. It might take some playing around with the settings or it might not even be possible, at the moment I have no clue but if I had to guess this idea wouldn’t work with sths because it’s a cross conference matchup? You can change playoff teams but idk how it would affect things afterwards, not a bad idea tho Should work, that's how the VHLM does it. I think you just need to tweak the bracket when you start it, but it should be doable. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,143 Posted Monday at 08:08 PM Commissioner Share Posted Monday at 08:08 PM 1 hour ago, N0HBDY said: I’m open to a playoff format change, I don’t speak for the commies, however as a simmer I’m sure a lot of the decision on if we did change the format is how adaptable is this idea with STHS. It might take some playing around with the settings or it might not even be possible, at the moment I have no clue but if I had to guess this idea wouldn’t work with sths because it’s a cross conference matchup? You can change playoff teams but idk how it would affect things afterwards, not a bad idea tho You can set up custom playoffs and it basically asks you how you want them assigned for each round; you can swap teams up, down, and between conferences. You have simmed the M, you should know this haha rory 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0HBDY 1,141 Posted Monday at 09:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:53 PM 1 hour ago, Beketov said: You have simmed the M, you should know this haha I’ve only done it once and that was S93 so it’s been a while lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leandrofg 1,197 Posted Monday at 09:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:57 PM I like the conference split. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,052 Posted Tuesday at 01:23 PM Admin Share Posted Tuesday at 01:23 PM It's certainly been very obvious the last 2 seasons due to there being 4 rebuilding European teams. Most previous times I think the point difference has been small between e.g. 6th in NA over 5th in EU and very possibly down to scheduling differences. So I guess the first point is that it's a small sample size of imbalance which could easily correct itself - and really GMs should be doing that already by deciding when to buy or sell, we've seen too many teams be too loyal to players recently and delaying a rebuild which has actually led to some of today's long rebuilds. Crossover has happened before, albeit very briefly, just before the first expansion of 10 teams. So it can be done certainly. I didn't love the aesthetics of it but when potentially the 3rd best team in the league was missing out on the playoffs there was a better case for it. I have less sympathy for the 9th-10th best team in the league missing the playoffs. Overall I think it's too early to make such a change and maybe not needed at all, but I appreciate the frustration of being that 6th place team missing out. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemorse7 1,030 Posted Tuesday at 01:27 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 01:27 PM 3 minutes ago, Victor said: It's certainly been very obvious the last 2 seasons due to there being 4 rebuilding European teams. Most previous times I think the point difference has been small between e.g. 6th in NA over 5th in EU and very possibly down to scheduling differences. So I guess the first point is that it's a small sample size of imbalance which could easily correct itself - and really GMs should be doing that already by deciding when to buy or sell, we've seen too many teams be too loyal to players recently and delaying a rebuild which has actually led to some of today's long rebuilds. Crossover has happened before, albeit very briefly, just before the first expansion of 10 teams. So it can be done certainly. I didn't love the aesthetics of it but when potentially the 3rd best team in the league was missing out on the playoffs there was a better case for it. I have less sympathy for the 9th-10th best team in the league missing the playoffs. Overall I think it's too early to make such a change and maybe not needed at all, but I appreciate the frustration of being that 6th place team missing out. its more obvious this seasons and last seasons but Im pretty sure the a lot of time where the best team that miss the playoff had a better reg seasons fiche then the worst team that made it in the other conf Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostBeard 2,062 Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM My suggestion - teams just have to be better. Banackock 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,190 Posted Tuesday at 02:03 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:03 PM 11 minutes ago, FrostBeard said: My suggestion - teams just have to be better. Or better GM’s. Rumor has it cap is going down. I don’t like this. I don’t agree with it. But that should help too. FrostBeard 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,190 Posted Tuesday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:04 PM Just now, Banackock said: Or better GM’s. Rumor has it cap is going down. I don’t like this. I don’t agree with it. But that should help too. This way bad GM’s that can’t get players and suck at their jobs, get free or cheap players because good GM’s can’t afford them anymore. Some call it ‘parity’, but some of us know what it truly is. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,052 Posted Tuesday at 03:04 PM Admin Share Posted Tuesday at 03:04 PM 1 hour ago, Lemorse7 said: its more obvious this seasons and last seasons but Im pretty sure the a lot of time where the best team that miss the playoff had a better reg seasons fiche then the worst team that made it in the other conf I addressed this. If a team has 67 points and misses out while one with 65 gets in I don't really care. They don't have the same schedule so you can't prove how they'd have done if they swapped games. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1049975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddpurplefly 176 Posted Wednesday at 12:38 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:38 AM (edited) I feel that the first three teams of the conferences should have their ticket to the playoffs and that everyone can agree on. But for the wildcard format, I think following the NHL model for divisions where other teams, after the first 3 spots, who has the most points should proceed to the playoffs. At times I can see that it would seem fair to just keep it as it is, but there are times where it is totally unfair for teams playing in a strong conference and outperforming most of the wildcard positions in the other conference, but yet fail to make the playoffs to an inferior team. And I say that thinking about situations where there's a noticeable difference in points. I wouldn't mind as much if the difference in point was minute. Edited Wednesday at 12:39 AM by Oddpurplefly Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/154150-suggestion-change-the-wilcard-playoff-format/#findComment-1050007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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