Molholt 2,185 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 For me, and probably others as boubabi has said things too, the league is only interesting when you're in the VHL - not the vhlm. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I agree with Molholt's above stavement Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Also yes Kendrick, it's intended for the 8th season. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I agree with Molholt's above stavement You, as a VHLM GM, are saying you're only really interested in the league when you're in the VHL? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 As a player yes. I remember my first go around, I wanted to get into the VHL after 1 season but couldn't. This time around, I wanted the same but had to do it because I retired early. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 You, as a VHLM GM, are saying you're only really interested in the league when you're in the VHL? It's great for new members, it sucks to waste 3 months as a returning member. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 It's great for new members, it sucks to waste 3 months as a returning member. You get as much out of the VHLM as you put into it. If you want it to suck, it's going to suck. Phil 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Right, my opinion is invalid and everyone likes the vhlm as much as the VHL. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Right, my opinion is invalid and everyone likes the vhlm as much as the VHL. That's not what I said. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,907 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Right, my opinion is invalid and everyone likes the vhlm as much as the VHL. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 There will be changes anyways at the end of the year to some of the structure anyways. Let's wait for those. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 For me, and probably others as boubabi has said things too, the league is only interesting when you're in the VHL - not the vhlm. this. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybj 59 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 see this is similar to the SHL theory but I don't think that you should be able to add TPE to the exsisting player and should have to function under the VHLM rules for TPE acquiring and such. However all VHLM options could still be open to your new VHLM player like the training camp and such Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 see this is similar to the SHL theory but I don't think that you should be able to add TPE to the exsisting player and should have to function under the VHLM rules for TPE acquiring and such. However all VHLM options could still be open to your new VHLM player like the training camp and such Training Camp wouldn't apply as much because the person would most likely be using carryover. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 If you want to make the VHLM more interesting, then you need to take away some teams. The way it is, there's always a few teams with 0 actives of them. I know that's the way it is in Turku right now. It was pretty close to that in my first season on this website when I was in Ottawa. If I didn't have the mindset of not caring for activity at the time and only for my guy's progress, then I probably wouldn't still be here. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,120 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I guess the benefit would be that you can continue to add TPE to your current player whereas with the current system all your earned TPE would go toward your new player. Anyway, I'm all for keeping the current system. For one, the VHLM needs more attention, even if some of us don't like it, so paying even less attention to it seems counter productive. Secondly, it complicates the hell out of carry-over amounts. Do you carry-over based on what you had when you re-created or add it later based on your actual total? Third, as Cowboy mentioned, you can essentially pay attention to a VHL player while having a VHLM player now anyway. Why change and complicate the rules just so that people can TPE whore a little easier? If you want to pay attention to a VHL player instead of the VHLM (for whatever reason) that take the TPE hit and retire at the start of your 8th season. Beketov for Builder!!!!!!!!! It's great for new members, it sucks to waste 3 months as a returning member. \You wanna reach the top, then you gotta commit and suffer through the things you may not necessarily want to do. I, personally, am not in favour with this idea. It doesn't make logistical sense to have 2 players playing simultaneously - otherwise I want to create a pair of Siamese twin defensemen that need to be drafted to the same team and spend their careers togethers. Although I get the arguments surrounding the VHLm... I don't see why a player has to play - if you're a re-create with low TPE - get drafted - if the VHL team wants you on the team, great. If not, and you don't like the VHLm - then opt to sit out until you are called up by that VHL team - until then, quit whining and work on your player build. This VHL shit is serious. It's no cake walk. Dedication is key. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,120 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 This is why Lockerroom activity, for me is so key btw... Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 If you want to make the VHLM more interesting, then you need to take away some teams. The way it is, there's always a few teams with 0 actives of them. I know that's the way it is in Turku right now. It was pretty close to that in my first season on this website when I was in Ottawa. If I didn't have the mindset of not caring for activity at the time and only for my guy's progress, then I probably wouldn't still be here. We will cut Turku in no time. 0 players? Well then no fans anyways haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Cutting down VHLM teams actually could work as well. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Cutting down VHLM teams actually could work as well. The less teams there are, the more actives there are per team and the more competition. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18017-new-idea/page/2/#findComment-191467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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