sherifflobo 137 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 who is dale weise ? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) To all Canucks fan on here. I'm terribly sorry that you have now Y.Weber AND R.Diaz ^^ Is Diaz that bad? We need defenseman and Weise... well, he's terrible. He's been bitching about being a healthy scratch for a while, despite his terrible play. Edited February 3, 2014 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Diaz is a good bottom defenseman. He has a good stick play but his size is really his main weakness. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He's a d-man and he can play, that's all that matters right now. Have fun with "Dutch Gretzky", the fourth line forward that thinks he's way better than he actually is. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The Micheal Blunden syndrome I guess Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Diaz, 100 blocked shots, thats not to bad Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 All Canadiens block shots. Thats the system. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He's a d-man and he can play, that's all that matters right now. Have fun with "Dutch Gretzky", the fourth line forward that thinks he's way better than he actually is. Remember when you stuck up for him when he had his 5 game point streak and I told you he was useless? Guy is not a good player by any means. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 i never minded Dale Weise, he may not have been the greatest but he tried you know Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 i never minded Dale Weise, he may not have been the greatest but he tried you know Tried but failed. His claim to fame is his speed and that he played amazing in a Dutch league. His fighting skills are horrible (he gets murdered in fights) and he has no control when skating. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Remember when you stuck up for him when he had his 5 game point streak and I told you he was useless? Guy is not a good player by any means. He was legitimately playing well on that streak of games. He did it a few times. But after that he regressed big time and he started bitching and moaning in the media about being benched. Gillis turned a waiver wire pick up into a useful d-man that can play 18 minutes a night. Best trade he's made in a while. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He was legitimately playing well on that streak of games. He did it a few times. But after that he regressed big time and he started bitching and moaning in the media about being benched. Gillis turned a waiver wire pick up into a useful d-man that can play 18 minutes a night. Best trade he's made in a while. And then he turned to shit like I said he was all along, but you had hope and live in the moment it seems. Don't get your hopes up with Diaz either, cause from what I've heard 18 minutes is too taxing for him and he starts to play like shit with high minutes. You're already saying it's a good trade, yet we haven't seen what he provides. At least gives things time to settle in the water before calling it a great catch. It's the same thing with Weise, telling me I'm an idiot for doubting him and now saying he is garbage. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 And then he turned to shit like I said he was all along, but you had hope and live in the moment it seems. Don't get your hopes up with Diaz either, cause from what I've heard 18 minutes is too taxing for him and he starts to play like shit with high minutes. You're already saying it's a good trade, yet we haven't seen what he provides. At least gives things time to settle in the water before calling it a great catch. It's the same thing with Weise, telling me I'm an idiot for doubting him and now saying he is garbage. I'm just going off what other people are saying, but I never said it was a "great catch". From what I've heard, Diaz is a decent third pairing guy, 18 minutes would probably be the high end for him. What this looks like is Gillis buying low and selling high, the Canucks were never going to re-sign Weise so getting a guy that can play and fill a need right now is a good deal regardless. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm just going off what other people are saying, but I never said it was a "great catch". From what I've heard, Diaz is a decent third pairing guy, 18 minutes would probably be the high end for him. What this looks like is Gillis buying low and selling high, the Canucks were never going to re-sign Weise so getting a guy that can play and fill a need right now is a good deal regardless. Both are UFA's. Diaz' contract is higher basically meaning if Gillis was to go out and get someone at the deadline, he has less room to work with. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Both are UFA's. Diaz' contract is higher basically meaning if Gillis was to go out and get someone at the deadline, he has less room to work with. I thought Weise was a pending RFA, but there was no way the Canucks were bringing him back so it doesn't matter. I have no idea if Diaz will stick, this is trading a guy they didn't want anymore for someone that fills a need right now with Tanev, Bieksa, and Weber all injured. Gillis isn't going to make a deal for a rental this season. It seems like they're finally ready to start pulling this core group apart since it's abundantly clear its time for an actual reset beyond a new coaching staff. The only "major" deals I'd see happening before the deadline would be an Edler+ for O'Reilly or Booth for a bag of pucks, and I'd put both of those under "unlikely". Edited February 3, 2014 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I thought Weise was a pending RFA, but there was no way the Canucks were bringing him back so it doesn't matter. I have no idea if Diaz will stick, this is trading a guy they didn't want anymore for someone that fills a need right now with Tanev, Bieksa, and Weber all injured. Gillis isn't going to make a deal for a rental this season. It seems like they're finally ready to start pulling this core group apart since it's abundantly clear its time for an actual reset beyond a new coaching staff. The only "major" deals I'd see happening before the deadline would be an Edler+ for O'Reilly or Booth for a bag of pucks, and I'd put both of those under "unlikely". If I was you I wouldn't want O'Reilly. From what I've seen he kinda is full of himself, but that's just personal opinion. I don't think they will gut this team cause Mike Gillis is never going to admit he is an idiot and built it slightly wrong. If they gut it, he has lost his job. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 If I was you I wouldn't want O'Reilly. From what I've seen he kinda is full of himself, but that's just personal opinion. I don't think they will gut this team cause Mike Gillis is never going to admit he is an idiot and built it slightly wrong. If they gut it, he has lost his job. I doubt they'll completely gut it, but I think some major pieces are going to be on the move in the next 12 months. Time for the young guys to step in. Lack, Tanev, Stanton, Kassian are the first wave of that. I guess Schroeder and Dalpe can be considered a part of that as well. I think Horvat, Archibald, and Corrado will be the next group to make the jump. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBR 158 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Diaz is pretty much like Yannick Weber. His shot is worst , but he's a little bit better defensively. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,818 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Great, now I have to google "Yannick Weber". Just when I was getting the a clue about this conversation. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Torts FTW Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 We pretty much traded for Wiese if he were a defenseman so really no gain or lose for this trade. Wiese is probably the most inconsistent 4th liner the Canucks have ever had, so have fun with that MTL. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Diaz is pretty much like Yannick Weber. His shot is worst , but he's a little bit better defensively. Yannick Weber has done all we've asked him for here though. He's ok on the PP, and is good enough defensively. For his role he's hasn't been that bad for us. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 We pretty much traded for Wiese if he were a defenseman so really no gain or lose for this trade. Wiese is probably the most inconsistent 4th liner the Canucks have ever had, so have fun with that MTL. Byron Ritchie says Hi. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2014/2/3/5374414/the-value-of-raphael-diaz-why-trading-him-was-a-mistake This guy isn't too happy about the trade. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Byron Ritchie says Hi. I'd take Richie in his hay days over Weise no problem. And douglas murry plays for MTL what in the fuck. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/35/#findComment-37587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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