Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yeah just who cares if there is a revolving door of GM's. As long as it makes other GM's happy right? That's real better overall for the VHLM right? LMFAO!See hard to debate something with an attitude like that. Just discuss it, don't degrade it. At this stage I just hear excuses as to why people aren't claiming guys (when their team might be tanking anyways). Thus, VHLM Draft lottery should be a thing. Done Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I am aware of that, and perhaps that's because people are more focused on winning and get bored, opposed to the true purpose of the VHLM which is to promote activity. There is only so much that so many people can do. It should be an effort and I stated in a post before there should be some sort of recruitment drive with incentives for reaching so much TPE or something. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 See hard to debate something with an attitude like that. Just discuss it, don't degrade it. At this stage I just hear excuses as to why people aren't claiming guys (when their team might be tanking anyways). Thus, VHLM Draft lottery should be a thing. Done For about the 3rd or 4th time, it's hard to claim someone when someone else with higher priority comes in and grabs them. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth 92 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 There is only so much that so many people can do. It should be an effort and I stated in a post before there should be some sort of recruitment drive with incentives for reaching so much TPE or something. I am all for that and an incitement to keep first generation players active. However, it's sort of sad it has come down to rewarding something in the job description. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 2,000 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I don't think hurting bad teams is a good thing to do. Instead, I think it is best to promote the purpose of the league with incentives for GMs like I mentioned before. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 There is only so much that so many people can do. It should be an effort and I stated in a post before there should be some sort of recruitment drive with incentives for reaching so much TPE or something.Recruitment Drive? It's useless if our waiver/draft ways are flawed. I suggested a Recruitment drive a couple weeks ago and in the bOG we are discussing that. However, if we get him here, i have no faith we will hold onto them (mainly because of this waiver shit). Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,021 Posted January 5, 2014 Admin Share Posted January 5, 2014 What this thread has definitely shown me is there is no good reason to not assign players to teams after 72 hours of being available.This will be implemented with immediate effect unless someone makes a reasonable counterargument. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 For about the 3rd or 4th time, it's hard to claim someone when someone else with higher priority comes in and grabs them.You tried to claim 1 guy. Don't give me that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Recruitment Drive? It's useless if our waiver/draft ways are flawed. I suggested a Recruitment drive a couple weeks ago and in the bOG we are discussing that. However, if we get him here, i have no faith we will hold onto them (mainly because of this waiver shit). Maybe once a team claims someone they move to the bottom of the priority list. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 2,000 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I am all for that and an incitement to keep first generation players active. However, it's sort of sad it has come down to rewarding something in the job description. One could also make the valid statement that when a job is of importance, people who hold that job deserve some sort of reward. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 This will be implemented with immediate effect unless someone makes a reasonable counterargument.I agree with you. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 You tried to claim 1 guy. Don't give me that. The other guys I tried to claim, they were already handed to other teams. I'm not going in and posting about getting someone when they are headed to a team already. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Maybe once a team claims someone they move to the bottom of the priority list.That is the current system? Not sure what you are getting at. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 So I think im going to give my opinion. As everyone knows im not the best when it comes to activity in either league, I'll say this though the oly reason im back is because Joey (Kendrick) pm'd me. When i was in the minors no one contacted me, talked or even showed interest in anyone (except re-creates) \, then when I went inactive after i was undrafted into the VHL I lost hope. 3 weeks later Joey pmed me asking what it would take to get me back, After we spoke I ame back and yes im behind in my player but im having more fun now. The fact of how BS the VHLM is is making me not want to recreate because it would be pointless. JS a pm goes along way. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,021 Posted January 5, 2014 Admin Share Posted January 5, 2014 Oh and incentive for VHLM GMs will also be implemented retroactive to the start of the season (this is 1 TPE for each new member who gets to 50 TPE) unless someone makes a good counterargument for that. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 2,000 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 This will be implemented with immediate effect unless someone makes a reasonable counterargument. Well obviously, and one could say 3 days is even too long. People want to see their players play immediately. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Oh and incentive for VHLM GMs will also be implemented retroactive to the start of the season (this is 1 TPE for each new member who gets to 50 TPE) unless someone makes a good counterargument for that.I agree with this as well. On a roll Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth 92 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 One could also make the valid statement that when a job is of importance, people who hold that job deserve some sort of reward. Your point is valid, but more so for members who keep their jobs for several seasons? What's the point of rewarding a new GM. Consistency should be proven and then rewarded? Just a suggestion. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Oh and incentive for VHLM GMs will also be implemented retroactive to the start of the season (this is 1 TPE for each new member who gets to 50 TPE) unless someone makes a good counterargument for that. Thank you Victor. This is something huge for the league. I hope more people will try and bring people in. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Da, just so you know free claims are a thing. So you can get a guy without going to the bottom of priority. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Da, just so you know free claims are a thing. So you can get a guy without going to the bottom of priority. Well this is news to me. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,021 Posted January 5, 2014 Admin Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well obviously, and one could say 3 days is even too long. People want to see their players play immediately.Yeah maybe 2 days. This means once a player joins there's 24 hours to claim him using priority, then 24 hours to claim him for free, and then he gets assigned to a team. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Your point is valid, but more so for members who keep their jobs for several seasons? What's the point of rewarding a new GM. Consistency should be proven and then rewarded? Just a suggestion.I think you are right on a general terms for many other things. In this league though we run on a week to week basis so Sterling is correct. Even if a guy is a new GM, if he gets a first generation member to stay active until 50 TPE, he should get a reward. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well this is news to me.Okay, I figured. That's where the confusion is. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) LOL DA's attitude changed once he finds out he will get TPE Edited January 5, 2014 by Guest Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/3549-vhlm-waiver-discussion/page/4/#findComment-25628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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