bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 The Ottawa Senators went from having a deep playoff run to being one of the worst teams in the league last season. How bad will the Senators be this year? Earlier last Summer, there was a scandal between Erik Karlsson and Hoffman’s girlfriend. The scandal was about Hoffman’s girlfriend who was accused of cyber bullying Erik Karlsson’s wife’s unborn baby. There were talks of Erik Karlsson potentially being traded to another team. Karlsson was obviously not traded as he is still with the team. Will Erik Karlsson be traded during the regular due to the unstable position the Senators are in? If Erik Karlsson is traded, the Senators lose their franchise defenseman and are left in a hard place. We obviously don’t know what the Sens would get in return, but they wouldn’t get a full package as Karlsson would most likely be a rental to another team. If they get rid of Karlsson, they won’t have much more talent. We then come to the question of, is Ottawa really THAT bad? Well, there are teams like Vancouver and Detroit. Vancouver has a lot of prospects coming up, and Brock Boeser is supposed to evolve into a much better player than last year. Detroit has Zadina and Dylan Larkin signed long-term. Detroit recently signed Jonathan Bernier to fill that role of a starting goaltender. I think if OTT keeps Karlsson, they won’t be bottom 5. We will have to wait and see! DollarAndADream 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobaa19 191 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Watch it come out that karlsson girl was a pill popper.. doubt it but watch Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Real bad. Embarrassing franchise, embarrassing city, embarrassing owner. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooningitup 1,290 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I mean Ottawa not being a bottom 3 teams would be shocking lol even with Karlsson they need a 37 year old Anderson to bounce back to even stay even on last years roster Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gooningitup said: I mean Ottawa not being a bottom 3 teams would be shocking lol even with Karlsson they need a 37 year old Anderson to bounce back to even stay even on last years roster Idk, I don’t see them being a bottom 5. I think they have enough where they can get around. Duchene, Stone, and Karlsson. There are teams like Montreal, Vancouver, Detroit, and et cetera that are worse. As an Avalanche fan, I hope OTT is a bottom 3. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Tyler said: Real bad. Embarrassing franchise, embarrassing city, embarrassing owner. Well said, lol. Tyler 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooningitup 1,290 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, bagelbitesisbae said: Idk, I don’t see them being a bottom 5. I think they have enough where they can get around. Duchene, Stone, and Karlsson. There are teams like Montreal, Vancouver, Detroit, and et cetera that are worse. As an Avalanche fan, I hope OTT is a bottom 3. Van is about to go off, Petterson Joulevi, Demko Boeser, Horvat still got decent Vets in Stecher/Edler. Baertischi, Markstrom both good not great. I think they better than Ottawa probably top 5 bad still but i think Vans got a better roster maybe worse star power but better depth. Detroit really is bad will compete for bottom 3, with ottawa and montreal. I think ottawa is worst than Montreal because of Price alone. Which puts it at Detroit/Ottawa for bottom 2 spot Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluObieZ 1,125 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Historically bad. At least they have their 1st rounder... Oh wait! They don't lol what were they thinking at the draft. They could have given this years 1st to Colorado, but opted to keep it. Everyone and their aunt saw this coming, how couldn't they? Colorado now can end up with the 1st overall pick and they are looking to be a pretty deep team already (Avs fan) Do you think they regret trading for Duchene? I think so. Duchene wanted out of Colorado because he wanted a chance to play for the cup. Imagine what this does to him. He gets traded and Colorado explodes and Ottawa Implodes. Must think it maybe because him and his horrible attitude. (Still a fan of his) His contract is up at the end of the season LOL. AVS killed that trade. Makes the Forsberg trade look fair. Edited September 2, 2018 by BluObieZ NotAVHLM-GM 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 10 hours ago, BluObieZ said: Historically bad. At least they have their 1st rounder... Oh wait! They don't lol what were they thinking at the draft. They could have given this years 1st to Colorado, but opted to keep it. Everyone and their aunt saw this coming, how couldn't they? Colorado now can end up with the 1st overall pick and they are looking to be a pretty deep team already (Avs fan) Do you think they regret trading for Duchene? I think so. Duchene wanted out of Colorado because he wanted a chance to play for the cup. Imagine what this does to him. He gets traded and Colorado explodes and Ottawa Implodes. Must think it maybe because him and his horrible attitude. (Still a fan of his) His contract is up at the end of the season LOL. AVS killed that trade. Makes the Forsberg trade look fair. I mean everyone know Duchene was overrated too which is the funniest part. Never a first line centre. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 10 hours ago, BluObieZ said: Historically bad. At least they have their 1st rounder... Oh wait! They don't lol what were they thinking at the draft. They could have given this years 1st to Colorado, but opted to keep it. Everyone and their aunt saw this coming, how couldn't they? Colorado now can end up with the 1st overall pick and they are looking to be a pretty deep team already (Avs fan) Do you think they regret trading for Duchene? I think so. Duchene wanted out of Colorado because he wanted a chance to play for the cup. Imagine what this does to him. He gets traded and Colorado explodes and Ottawa Implodes. Must think it maybe because him and his horrible attitude. (Still a fan of his) His contract is up at the end of the season LOL. AVS killed that trade. Makes the Forsberg trade look fair. We FLEECED the Senators and sort of Nashville. We got OTT’s first rounder, Shane Bowers, Vladislav Kamenev, and Samuel Girard for Matt Duchene. NSH let go of Girard way too easily. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooningitup 1,290 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, bagelbitesisbae said: We FLEECED the Senators and sort of Nashville. We got OTT’s first rounder, Shane Bowers, Vladislav Kamenev, and Samuel Girard for Matt Duchene. NSH let go of Girard way too easily. Well its easy to Let Girard go when they have the deepest defense in the league all locked up for a long time and still have very good d prospects in the system. Girard was a subject of the numbers more than not believing he will be good. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Gooningitup said: Well its easy to Let Girard go when they have the deepest defense in the league all locked up for a long time and still have very good d prospects in the system. Girard was a subject of the numbers more than not believing he will be good. Yeah, I know that is one of the main reasons, but they could’ve asked for more instead of basically giving Girard to us for peanuts. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluObieZ 1,125 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 56 minutes ago, bagelbitesisbae said: We FLEECED the Senators and sort of Nashville. We got OTT’s first rounder, Shane Bowers, Vladislav Kamenev, and Samuel Girard for Matt Duchene. NSH let go of Girard way too easily. We also got a 2nd and 3rd. Bowers is a 1st rounder, Girard is a 2nd rounder but playing like he should have been a 1st rounder. I'm telling you once it's all said done this may go down as the worst trade in history. If AVS get 1st overall or top 3 because the draft lottery in a deep draft. I'd love Hughes forsure but i'd take Cozens or Broberg. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, BluObieZ said: We also got a 2nd and 3rd. Bowers is a 1st rounder, Girard is a 2nd rounder but playing like he should have been a 1st rounder. I'm telling you once it's all said done this may go down as the worst trade in history. If AVS get 1st overall or top 3 because the draft lottery in a deep draft. I'd love Hughes forsure but i'd take Cozens or Broberg. Eyy! Fellow Avalanche fan! I’d love Kakko because he reminds me of Landeskog in a way. I wouldn’t mind Hughes though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluObieZ 1,125 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, bagelbitesisbae said: Eyy! Fellow Avalanche fan! I’d love Kakko because he reminds me of Landeskog in a way. I wouldn’t mind Hughes though. Ah yeah, forgot about Kakko. Mackinnon and Hughes 1-2 FM. But i'd settle for Cozens or Broberg. Broberg would be a huge help on the backend. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelbitesisbae 71 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, BluObieZ said: Ah yeah, forgot about Kakko. Mackinnon and Hughes 1-2 FM. But i'd settle for Cozens or Broberg. Broberg would be a huge help on the backend. Obviously more defensive prospects are nice, but we are pretty good on them for now. We need more offensive presence as we have the top line and not a solidified second line. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluObieZ 1,125 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, bagelbitesisbae said: Obviously more defensive prospects are nice, but we are pretty good on them for now. We need more offensive presence as we have the top line and not a solidified second line. Very true we do have some pretty nice D prospects coming up. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-547902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Move them to Atlanta! /s Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/52632-how-bad-will-the-senators-be/#findComment-548113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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