eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 So you have been assigned a role that is not town - either mafia, neutral, or coven. You may be a new player who wants to blend in with town, but has no idea what is going on. My best advice is not to just stay silent and hope you won't be noticed, because someone tries this every game and winds up being hung around day 3 or 4. Below is my simplistic solution to helping you blend in as town. As you become more familiar with the game there are a lot of different routes you can take, but if you have no idea where to start this will help. Step One: Look up the investigator results for your role (make sure to look at the Coven Expansion DLC mode as that is the one we usually use). You will want to pretend to be a town role that is listed among your possible roles if an investigator looks at you. For example, if you are a mafioso and the investigator looks at you night one, he will see that you could be any of the following roles - Vigilante, Veteran, Mafioso, Pirate, or Ambusher. You will want to pick one of the town roles to blend in as (in this case vigilante or veteran). This way if you are later questioned and claim to be something else (say a medium), the investigator can call you out and say his results don't match. Step Two: Create a fake will for the role you picked, with the easiest way to do it being creating your fake night action the morning after the night period. Try to follow the game thread to make sure your fake night actions cannot easily be shown false. For example, if you are crafting a fake will as a veteran, you want to try and make the nights you "alerted" make sense with the flow of the game. If you roleblocked on night one and jailed on night two, you should not pretend you alerted either of those nights, as that would easily call you out as a liar. Step Three: Be adaptable. If you follow steps one and two it helps you avoid suspicious for at least the first few nights. However, let's revisit the scenario where you are mafioso. Let's pretend you have yet to claim a role, and someone announces they were the veteran who killed someone who visited them last night (how rude!). While you might have originally been planning to blend in as a veteran, you will probably not be successful doing that as veteran is a unique role that only one person can be. If you hadn't claimed a role up to this point, you could switch your claim to a vigilante as that is on your investigative results list, or be bold and pick a different role hoping the investigator doesn't look at you. Step Four: If after a few days it appears there is no investigator, or the investigator died early on day one, you can freely pretend to be any role without fear of being called out by the investigator. Just make sure to have a good defense for why you were quiet if you had yet to reveal up to this point. Hope this helps our new members blend in better as evils! Remember when in doubt, blend in as a town role on your investigative results and make a fake will! Ptyrell, Gustav, omgitshim and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berocka 2,263 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Or just counter claim someone day two get them lynched and say they were a disguiser and you are the true (insert town role here) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berocka 2,263 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Or pick a role someone else has claimed and say Gustav did another game where he made too many of one role Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Berocka said: Or just counter claim someone day two get them lynched and say they were a disguiser and you are the true (insert town role here) While that could work with an experienced player, I think that tactic would be too confusing for a new player to pull off. Thanks for the idea though I will keep that in mind for myself Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 902 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Berocka said: Or just counter claim someone day two get them lynched and say they were a disguiser and you are the true (insert town role here) Ask Jorg how well that went for him last game. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berocka 2,263 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, chatfan036 said: While that could work with an experienced player, I think that tactic would be too confusing for a new player to pull off. Thanks for the idea though I will keep that in mind for myself 4 minutes ago, omgitshim said: Ask Jorg how well that went for him last game. The idea was to make an idea that new people couldn't pull off well so it will be easier for me to find them. You two should not be able to use such tactics. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Here's another tip that's easy for any new player. Stick to your guns, dont give up when people start voting you. Defend yourself to the very end Gustav, bigAL and eaglesfan036 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgTheGoat03 53 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, omgitshim said: Ask Jorg how well that went for him last game. I think it could've worked better if I claimed to be afk on that day and on the next day CCed someone who wasn't as experienced of a player. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,407 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Caboose30 said: Here's another tip that's easy for any new player. Stick to your guns, dont give up when people start voting you. Defend yourself to the very end Also stop voting for yourself as soon as a couple people vote for you, people. It doesn't count and it's never in your team's best interest for you to die just so you can prove some stupid point. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhatty8 667 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 neutrals might just want to stay silent and hope for the best tbh. They have enough firepower to potentially win after 3-5 days. It's also harder to pull off a fake claim as literally everyone wants you dead. For Maf and Coven, it's best to try and get someone else on your side to cover for you. For instance, have someone claim to be a TI and clear your name. It is true that if one of you dies, the other is probably going to be lynched. But I'd take your chances. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-786493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 902 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:20 AM, jhatty8 said: neutrals might just want to stay silent and hope for the best tbh. They have enough firepower to potentially win after 3-5 days. It's also harder to pull off a fake claim as literally everyone wants you dead. Eh, it depends on what neutral and how the game is shaking out. Jester and Exe usually want to be vocal to get their target/themselves lynched. PB usually wants to be active since they will be seen visiting but nothing will happen, so it's easier to fake a TI/TP claim that way. Witch too to an extent but obviously you can't fake your TI claim too accurately since your target knows they are controlled. Vampires can sometimes fall back on their pre-conversion role and continue to fake it. Pirates can sometimes just out themselves (if there are other targets to fry), especially if Mafia/Coven are starting to pull ahead. You have to be careful of Vigis if you do that, since you're a free shot to both confirm themselves and roll the dice on an evil faking Pirate. NKs can sometimes skate through being silent, but they can also fake their Invest results to some success (SK gets Doc, Arso gets BG/Crusader though that also gives you GF heat and is generally a go to evil defense, WW gets Sheriff or even Exe if you want to be extra bold and you're sure there's no Jailor, Jugg kinda in trouble since Lookout is tough to fake). Neutral Benigns depends on how you want to play them. Guardian Angel is usually safe to claim outright, especially if your target is Town. Once you protect them you're pretty much confirmed and evils don't have much reason to kill you unless they need you to stop voting. Survivor is a lot riskier since it's an easy evil claim so no one will really believe you. Amnesiac depends on how you want to play it. If you plan to just join Town feel free to claim outright; if you want to be evil, you gotta fake something or slide under the radar a bit. Berocka 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-787368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhatty8 667 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 20 hours ago, omgitshim said: Eh, it depends on what neutral and how the game is shaking out. Jester and Exe usually want to be vocal to get their target/themselves lynched. PB usually wants to be active since they will be seen visiting but nothing will happen, so it's easier to fake a TI/TP claim that way. Witch too to an extent but obviously you can't fake your TI claim too accurately since your target knows they are controlled. Vampires can sometimes fall back on their pre-conversion role and continue to fake it. Pirates can sometimes just out themselves (if there are other targets to fry), especially if Mafia/Coven are starting to pull ahead. You have to be careful of Vigis if you do that, since you're a free shot to both confirm themselves and roll the dice on an evil faking Pirate. NKs can sometimes skate through being silent, but they can also fake their Invest results to some success (SK gets Doc, Arso gets BG/Crusader though that also gives you GF heat and is generally a go to evil defense, WW gets Sheriff or even Exe if you want to be extra bold and you're sure there's no Jailor, Jugg kinda in trouble since Lookout is tough to fake). Neutral Benigns depends on how you want to play them. Guardian Angel is usually safe to claim outright, especially if your target is Town. Once you protect them you're pretty much confirmed and evils don't have much reason to kill you unless they need you to stop voting. Survivor is a lot riskier since it's an easy evil claim so no one will really believe you. Amnesiac depends on how you want to play it. If you plan to just join Town feel free to claim outright; if you want to be evil, you gotta fake something or slide under the radar a bit. Talking more NKs. Arso is easier to fake, but if you claim Doc in an SK game, you'll catch some heat. Same with Sheriff in a WW game Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/93186-eaglesfans-guide-to-blending-in-as-town/#findComment-787546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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