Beketov

The boat curse remains intact for at least another season

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To be fair most of the punishment on the team got removed in favour of punishment on IR once we realized that all we were doing was punishing Prague.

Yeah I know but it feels more right to shout out the actual involved people. The GM tag was just a sentence really.

At least someone else gets it. I’m not saying we don’t make subjective decisions. Just a lot of years of dealing with complaining by people who want everything in stone. Not that stone cold rules don’t breed complaints anyway so no matter what I have to deal with it. I need to stop announcing things while Im meant to be working.

Blues bad, Lemorse sad

I mean strictly speaking yes. If their backup is an active human we've always allowed splitting time. But perhaps we should have a set TPE threshold before we consider it "you basically have a bot" Like I said above, I think we need to look at these rues a bit more in depth. Normally 1 game wouldn't spark anything but then you get complaints that some people are smacked for it and others aren't in the same season and it's just a whole mess. Like if you tank intentionally but make the playoffs because of a weak conference does that excuse the behaviour? Obviously 1 game isn't tanking but ya know what I mean? This is why rules can't really be black and white as much as people sometimes force our hand into making them so.

It's not as thrilling as you'd think. A lot of waiting around for the lighting guys mostly.

Because it’s been a long day and I didn’t think of that…

How can I be jealous when I'm not even in the VHL this season? I just find it funny.

It's a massive difference but they are still two human controlled goalies. TBH Spirit of Competition was always designed to prevent teams, as has happened in the past, from starting a bot for 30+ games to intentionally tank their performance. It was never intended to be a 1 or 2 start thing but teams have kept pushing their luck which means we've had to get more strict. We will likely need to adjust the wording on both rules. We shouldn't be making decisions like this over lunch breaks while not looking at everything; that much is clear. I have adjusted things in the OP in regards to LA's punishment and we will look into options further in future seasons regarding teams that don't own their picks in order to mores punish the GM's rather than the teams. Or, ya know, people can just follow the rules.

The Wildcard Cup Battle

I’m not, I just can’t really judge the reasons, only what I see. Missing them completely feels more intentional than missing a few. Doesn’t mean that it was, just explaining how it comes across.

Unfortunately it has a lesser effect when a team doesn’t hold their own pick yes. It’s an unfortunate situation that for infractions like this the amount we can punish isn’t particularly substantial. Do consider that it does go against the GM’s “record” so to speak though, we obviously don’t consider them getting off Scot free. I will admit we should be keeping a closer eye on who owns the picks though. or GM’s could just stop breaking the rules, that would be nice.

Because the Louth Rule has always been a thing? It can’t just be ignored because you aren’t a competitive team. The whole goal of the rule is to make things fair for teams that prioritize human goalies because otherwise why would you bother if you can just play a better starter for 72 games? Getting a proper backup means for those minimum 8 games you have a better chance at winning. They made mistakes, they left bots in too long, it is true, but that does not excuse you completely disregarding a rule. If it was a game or two missed it may have been less severe but completely ignoring it can’t be overlooked.

It isn’t though. Riga as it stands right now can’t pick higher than 14th anyway and that’s assuming they are eliminated this round. If they make the cup finals they are guaranteed 15th or 16th anyway. Yes, that is potentially a 2 spot drop which is worse than everyone else but I would argue dropping from 3rd to 4th has a heavier impact than 14th to 16th.

If GM’s are paying attention it’s very easy to account for. The problem lies if they aren’t paying no attention to having bots in on day 10 or if they wait until the end of the season when things can’t be adjusted for later. In general having 1 extra win on your record is unlikely to make substantial changes to lottery. The more one screws up the more affect it may have.

....... I distinctly remember announcing these punishments not long ago and saying that we really need our @VHL GM's to be better with their backup goalie starts and yet here we are with what can only be described as a pile of them... I will be honest, I am disappointed. We're changing up our precedent a bit here on the punishment and will likely use some combination of this and our old stuff and probably some other new stuff going forward but consider this a final warning that we will start using these rules as basis for termination if we have to. I don't want things to get that far, I don't like firing people, but if it gets bad enough we will. We do not impose a lot of rules on the GM's and these 2 don't seem that hard to follow. ANYWAY, where are we at for S97? Helsinki broke the Louth rule in full playing their human starter the full 72 games. Riga broke the Spirit of Competition by playing their bot goalie 1 extra game. DC broke the Spirit of Competition by playing their bot goalie 3 extra games. LA broke the Spirit of Competition by playing their bot goalie 4 extra games. As of the end of the season the lottery looked like this, though that's about to change: WAR - 25% LDN - 20% LAS - 17.5% HSK - 15.0% DCD - 12.5% CHI - 10% Riga is currently in the Conference Finals and does not affect the lottery. As for punishments, in part we are introducing a new system this season in which any backup games over the required 8 (specifically from a bot, human backups are fine), in accordance with the Spirit of Competition rules, will officially remove 1 loss and add 1 win to a team's record for the lottery standings. The majority of these punishments include that as well as lottery odd adjustments. Riga: Officially drop to 16th in Round 1. As it stands the best they could be is 14th right now anyway. If Riga wins the Continental Cup they will have another punishment decided as needed. DC: Add 3 wins. Makes their record effectively 29-36-7 for 65 points (which changes nothing). Strip 4% and give 1% each to WAR/LDN/CHI/LA LA: Add 4 wins. Makes their record effectively 20-47-5 for 45 points which means they drop to 4th best odds. Additionally @InstantRockstar is ineligible to claim GM pay for 4 weeks and LA sacrifices their 2nd round pick which cannot be traded. Helsinki: Strip 8% and give 2% each to WAR/LDN/CHI/LA. Additionally @McLovin is ineligible to claim GM pay for 4 weeks. This means the lottery odds for this season are as follow: WAR - 28% LDN - 23% HSK - 7% LAS - 20.5% DCD - 8.5% CHI - 13% To be clear as usual the first number represents their draft position, the percentage represents odds of first overall. So even though Helsinki has lower odds than LA at getting first overall they can only drop as low as 4th; LA can drop as low as 5th. @Lemorse7 @qripll @InstantRockstar @McLovin on the punishment front @N0HBDY @Baby Boomer @badcolethetitan on the heart attack front but really just because your odds have increased.

Wouldn’t be Halifax if they didn’t choke at least a bit…

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Looks like S77 was actually the first one that had that @Gustav so 20 seasons…

It’s been that way for like a dozen seasons at least I imagine.

What a disappointing week. San Diego did manage to win the conference title and walk into the playoffs as the second overall seed.... only to lose to the 7th place Saskatoon in 7 games. I already got my founder's cup but getting several would have been nice and losing as the higher seed always hurts extra. Shitty way to end what was a shitty season for the Cardinal; I did manage to get 5 points in 7 playoff games which is pretty solid though. I believe I had a point in each game that we didn't get shutout so that's something. I'll admit without simming or playing n the VHL this season I haven't paid a ton of attention but I just checked their standings and noticed Seattle managed to topple Vancouver and Riga managed to beat Malmo; both coming out of the wildcard; Simon gonna Simon amirite? I don't actually know who I want to see win in the VHL this season but it's interesting. The Victory Cup curse continues. Of note, wtf @VHL GM's; why no scouting? Only one of you has written me so far. I am disappoint.

I honestly don't care that much. I don't pay attention to many sports anymore and football is no exception. If I recall though no team ahs ever won 3 straight and I do like when teams can do things that no one else has done before so maybe that would be cool for the Chiefs. Well given that I'm in the M I will be moving on eventually no matter what; I'll take it instead as "next season" rather than eventually. As of right now I'm at 288 TPE so it seems likely I will be still available in the M next season. I don't have a huge rush to get to the VHL for 9 seasons I don't think, it'll depend how the raft goes and what my eventual team needs but I expect I'll still be in San Diego next season. Not really but I'm sure my wife expects some so I'll need to get that figured out I suppose haha. ---------- 1. Everyone skipped my questions last time around; why do you all hate me so much? 2. Mac or PC; which do you prefer? 3. We're officially at the final 4 in the VHL; who do you see winning the Cup?

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