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Welcome to the VHL, Plix! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Welcome to the VHL, nfrank060! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Should I just do that now before I read further?

I misunderstood. So VHLM and VHL draft dates would still be set at creation but VHLE would move depending on TPE? It makes sense on the surface but it might be confusing if someone gets drafted to the VHL before the VHLE. Mind you depending on dates I guess that could happen now anyway and it would probably be rare.

Draft date being set at creation is still an integral part of the VHL though. I get other leagues handle it this way and while it has some advantages I stand by the fact that it’s far too easy to cheese with people generally being asked if not forced to do so, which can result in a lack of activity. What I mean is that if we say “your draft date is the off season after cutoff X” then what you’ll get is people earning up to X-1 so that they can have a full “uncapping” season. This congests the VHLM with top end players who don’t need to learn and are just taking ice time from new players while also making it so that people may have weeks at a time where they are told to earn nothing in order to be “optimal.” I know I went inactive in the EFL because of this because I was literally told for 3/4 of a season to earn nothing or else I would go over 199 and lose my optimal “uncapping season.” Personally I find that drawback outweighs the benefit.

Welcome to the VHL, QcjetsQc! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

It’s true that something can be simultaneously the best solution right now and potentially not needed later. While it would hardly be the CLEANEST thing I have always stood by the fact that removing the VHLE would actually be easier than removing teams. Removing teams, as we have done before, involves having to distribute their players around to the other teams and is inherently messy. However with all VHLE players being also drafted to VHLM and VHL teams it would just be a matter of setting the TPE limits and pushing people to where they belong. But yes, right now I stand by the fact that the VHLE is still our best course of action.

You could argue it’s the lack of games more than the lack of team mind you and if so that wouldn’t change anything aside from rushing the GM’s into a decision and making the GM’s in the playoffs focus on scouting while they also are trying to win.

I’m not sure what I’m looking at but I know that mobile really hates it hah

Welcome to the VHL, Raij! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Welcome to the VHL, Triller! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Welcome to the VHL, Markusbg! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Welcome to the VHL, etang! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Welcome to the VHL, Beau! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Hey, we did with our first unintentionally, eh @Will

A few people know already but for those that don’t I might be a bit AWOL over the next couple of weeks or so. Gotta prepare the class of S150ish And no, we didn’t name her after any VHLers this time I don’t think. Weird to think the VHL is 15 years older than her haha

Welcome to the VHL, StackThePads! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Welcome to the VHL, xslapxshotsx! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

How does that solve the boom / bust cycle though? It just pushes it down a bit because teams load up on picks in good drafts and instead of being dominant that season they are dominant 1 season later when they have a bunch of older players. Meanwhile those new players coming in with sub-100 TPE are getting super buried down the lines because players have 4x the TPE they do so you get a garbage experience for new members. At the end of the day members who know what they are doing and can earn at a high rate do not need to spend extra time in the VHLM.

We are to a point but when you’re talking inactives at the VHL level you’re talking about people that were around for a significant amount of time to get that TPE level. Yes, some of them still disappear but obviously they were active enough to be drafted and make the VHL. That’s a lot of scouting and prospect space taken to just say “welp, they went inactive so purge them all” like we do in the VHLM where we constantly need space. I’ve also generally been of the mindset that you kill most chance you have of someone returning if they are simply gone for a season and their 500 TPE player gets retired. The fact is that the VHLE either needs to exist or both the VHLM and VHL need to get bigger and I don’t see that as a positive. The M could sustain a few more teams, as it has before, but that’ll only make the boom / bust cycle worse but to keep 16 is about the cap on what the VHL can sustain, both in sheer number of players and in the sheer fact that adding too many teams waters everything down and makes it hard to even keep track. Expansion was not the answer here, I say recognizing the irony that we “expanded” by a whole league.

When in doubt use the trivia discord channel and people will help you. It’s so rare to need to guess.

I don’t care about admitting we made a mistake, I care about doing what’s best and still believe the E is the best solution to the issue. Constantly expanding both the VHLM and VHL to hit the needs of the league was not and is not sustainable, COVID or not. You take the amount of players we have in the VHLE and shove them into either of the two other leagues and both of them become over-filled.

Here’s the thing though: the E didn’t exist for 79 seasons and the VHLM got up as high as 12 teams with a higher TPE bracket than it had now and it still had a boom and bust cycle. That’s the nature of the VHLM ultimately.

Welcome to the VHL, mathygreen! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Welcome to the VHL, Greg Hickman! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!