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I can't pick what to do this weekend so what should I do 
answers must be pg please

We're just a relentlessly positive group of people who certainly didn't just assume it was online sexual predators somehow using spotify to catfish.

I was just hoping it was Nashville or something, but this is marginally better.

YOOOO ME to. 

I panicked super hard

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yo I saw this title and panicked so hard lmfao

I wish I knew the right answer and the right fix, I dont. but i think we should at least give it a fair shot. but i  agree retaining all 50 will be bear impossible. 

Going to try and be as impartial as possible here, the current IA issues in the VHLE were unavoidable. At the time of the VHLEs creation and this season there just simply isn't enough active players between 200 and 350/400 TPE to support a 6 let alone 8 team league without the need for IA players to fill roster spots. As of a couple weeks ago exactly 40% of the VHLE was IA players (that has likely gone up, just with players naturally leaving), with 2 teams over 50% IA (77% and 54%).
 
Like the VHLM the VHLE is highly dependant on a high rate of recruitment and we should see the number of players in the VHLE reflect that of the VHLM 1-2 seasons prior. Going into next season we should see 40-50 players leaving the M for the E, and only about 25-35 leaving. If recruitment goes down to less than 100 players per season again we will more than likely see the VHLE fill up with IA players once again.

Don't sweat it, no bad blood what-so-ever from me nor any perceived from you. I literally knew you'd have something to say before I posted it. Because I know you feel very strongly about the league, and to be honest. If you didn't give a contrary argument, I would have considered it a sign that what I posted wasn't thought provoking enough to elicit a response. Which would have been miles worse. I posted it with it being such a raw idea precisely to get all that feedback and discussion back and forth. Sure I eventually got a bit exhausted by it. But that was to be expected.

And I hope you don't take this as me not appreciating your perspective--I do.
 
It's 100% possible to disagree with something without having a problem with the other person involved.

I just read what I wrote and question if I'd say it to my mom's face  

1.) that was one of those "in the heat of the moment" unedited things. however I said it so ill deal with the fallback for that. 

2.) I guess where I was trying to come from is their is inactivity in the M as well, but the difference is the E is new and we are still trying to Filter up players so its not. but saying the E is bad and not giving a reason, or explaining it properly could push off the very members we need to keep it active. if that makes sense. 

3.) no i get that, i own the mistakes ive made in regards to egging people on. I am a fighter and a strong personality and I guess im still learning how to harness that in in a group setting. 

4.) This i think comes form modern day "Transparency" can be interpreted differently. had people laid it out as you had I dont think i would have reacted as i did. that being said I agree with how you laid that out and i agree to that extent yes. 

As a first gen, I joined right before the S71 VHLM Draft and was drafted to Vegas. I spent the full season there, and then was drafted to Moscow in the S72 draft. I stayed down in the VHLM in S72 because I had not hit 250 TPE, which is what you're saying.
 
However, as a TDL recreate, I went from 80 TPE at the S79 TDL to 206 TPE at the S80 VHLE draft. But my draft class is S81. So I realistically would have only spent 1 season in the VHLM and then gone to the VHL with Nico Pearce under the old system as well. First gens are just impacted more severely because you join randomly, and it is often not at the optimal creation point. Simply a lack of luck.
 
Guaranteed vs potential TPE. If you go to the E, you will certainly lose out on 8-9 uncapped TPE that you would have gotten in the VHLM. Also you can do all three fantasy zones while in the VHLM as well, which is why if I had gone up and Hylands had stayed down, he surely would have passed me in TPE.
 
When everyone in all three leagues can do all opportunities, the person who skips the M loses out more than someone who skips the E.

I numbered things just so you know what parts of this im addressing. nothing else was edited I swear. 

1.) some of the other arguments I saw was about the 1 TPE change, and Yes that is a good chunk of TPE. but you wanting to max earn and get as much TPE as possible In my opinion, and my opinion only that not a good enough argument by its self as to why you should write off an entire league. (the VHLE)

2.) I have not once denied the Inactivity, my thing about it that was simply its still so new so Inactivity is unavoidable for some teams. it was an execution error and didnt take time to formulate my thoughts properly on that. I own that. 

3.) never invalidated anyone opinion. but thanks, ill remember that for next time. 

4.) so this is a misrepresentation of the situation, you know that so lets not try to paint it as something its not. I agree with the C.O.C and i have alos pointed out when its flawed. thats documented. What I was arguing was what people felt entitled to know certain information in certain cases when they were not involved. thats it. I was not arguing the C.O.C or what was being asked. 

5.) again i didn't Write of anyone, i was just syaing his need for more TPE I dont feel is a good enough argument to oppose the VHLE. 

The article was poorly executed, and rushed, I own that. I stand by my words and I wont appologize for them. just next time ill take more time to make sure my thoughts are worded out more clearly, and the article reads more nuetral. a good learning experience here for me. 

Obviously some teams are better, some are worse, but these are the last updates for my team in Rome:
 
(Red is inactive by VHLM standards, Yellow is active but hasn't updated since before last week, Green is fully active)
 
Forwards:
(S80) Brendan Marner: Week Ending December 19, 2021
 
(S77) Tyler Steel: Week Ending November 21, 2021
 
(S76) Gabby Dugan: Week Ending December 19, 2021
 
(S78) Deke Rike: Week Ending November 28, 2021
 
(S81) Robert Wilk: Week Ending December 19, 2021
 
(S75) Noah Mashford: Week Ending December 19, 2021
 
(S77) Russell Dixon: Week Ending December 05, 2021
 
(S78) Caleb Gaudette: Week Ending September 26, 2021
 
Defense:
(S79) Ben Aky: Week Ending October 03, 2021
 
(S81) Biggie Cheese: Week Ending December 19, 2021
 
(S80) Flynn Remy: Week Ending December 12, 2021
 
(S78) Milk Jugs: Week Ending June 20, 2021
 
Goalies:
(S75) Luke Spinelli: Week Ending September 26, 2021
 
(S74) Michael Olson: Week Ending December 05, 2021
 
We currently have 9 active players and 5 inactive ones. 3 active players are at risk of going inactive. Of the 9 active players, there are 4 that earn more than welfare and practice facility on a regular basis. (Marner, Wilk, Cheese, Remy)
 
It's worth noting that 4 players that are considered active already have depreciation to worry about and will likely never leave the VHLE.

*cracks knuckles*
 
I've already commented on a decent amount of points that have come up in this thread, and I'm generally ignoring the stupid quabbling that happened in here. Some other points that I saw and went "oooh this could be fun to respond to" are what I cover below. I tried to group them up when applicable but probably failed a bit because I multi-quoted 8 posts and tried to group them into a single quote.....this'll go well eh?

Edit before posting: I've royally fucked up quotes so here are tags for everyone whose words I yoinked. @Horcrux @fromtheinside @a_Ferk @Moon @Beketov @Daniel Janser
 
Out of curiosity, what pre-existing issues are you referring to that are getting applied specifically to the VHLE? The main arguments against the E that I've seen is lower PF that is significant to a max earner, an extra season en route to the VHL, and a higher IA % than any other league. I'm a clear proponent of the E and have expressed skepticism of the anti-E sentiment as well, but I don't get this "blaming for pre-VHLE issues" argument against the people who don't like the E. 
 
Yeah this is an odd gray area here, where I think that people are allowed to have opinions without needing to explain them - except if they're a decision maker and need to back up an action. I also think that an opinion of "this adds an extra season between me and the VHL" isn't something you can demand evidence for. It's literally just an "I don't like this" and that is perfectly valid for someone to say. Ferk's comment here about inactive players is an opinion that also provides some statistic. Whether it's 100% accurate or not, I don't know, but I have seen inactivity numbers in the VHLE and they are more significant in number than in the VHLM or VHL.
 
Just an overall word of caution that just because you don't necessarily agree with an opinion doesn't mean you get to invalidate it if it isn't presented to your standards, especially when you're asking for discussion and opinions.
 
More of an aside, but I just found this funny. When change occurs, people ask tough questions. It seems those tough questions aren't welcome though. Only the "tough" questions asked that lead to change you're in favor with seem to be acceptable. I've seen you try to shut down a lot of CoC questions in the past simply because you didn't like the questions being asked, or that you didn't agree with where they were coming from. Change is a two-sided coin, there will be proponents and dissonance to any change. People not liking specific changes does not mean the league as a whole does not "handle change well," it just means that people have opinions and that's perfectly natural. I don't know why you needed this odd jab in a post that otherwise was in good taste and presented with good intentions.
 
I actually didn't know BOG "needed/is strongly suggested" to publicly support league initiatives, but I guess that's pretty cool to see. I do think that dissonance should also be presented, but in a constructive manner instead of just ripping shit apart for the sake of it. Cool little insight here Scotty. But also yeah, of all the people you'd expect to support the E, it'd be:

Admin - approved the E's existence
Mod - literally just keeping the peace in the community, not going to tear apart a controversial topic and add fuel
BOG - overall also approved the E's existence
VHL GM - generally have benefited from the E existing since 250-400 players no longer clutter up rosters if the GM's don't want them there
VHLE GM - this is their job!
 
The only job group you mentioned I'd expect to gripe about it (and seemingly, they have) is the VHLM GM since the E has handcuffed their competitive inclinations , dropped the TPA of players available to them, and cycled their rosters faster than before. General members are a coin flip, veterans already didn't like being in the M because they only care about the VHL. First-gens will hold whatever opinion they're told to hold before they take the time to do their own research. Something something biased post something something not random sampling something something.
 
Writing off people who care about their earning is definitely not the proper look. 1 tpe per week over the course of the entire season adds up. It's more than a doubles week, and you don't even lose any contract money for it. Granted, I won't say that the VHLE "sucks" because PF drops from 2 to 1. If that's your logic, you're not going to like the VHL either . 
 
But to Bek's counterargument, I will also counter-argue. If I'm going to drop down to 1 TPE in my first post-draft season regardless of if I'm in the VHLE or the VHL, and if I have the choice to play in either the E or the VHL, I 100% will be choosing to play 9 VHL seasons. Though I would also fully support dropping PF in the M to 1 TPE again since we have lower caps now anyways, and as you said, there's an extra season on everyone's career that would make up the lost 1 TPE. As a max earner, I would just hate to lose out on 8-9 uncapped TPE while others in my draft class who didn't earn as well from recreation-next season benefit from it. It's like a punishment for earning too well.
 

This. 
 
Good post Spartan. Enjoyed your insight.

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I replaced the coffee....

Here is a Family Friendly, Safe, Quiet VHL.com article. It is part 2 of the Playlist of Ariane Leblanc. This week will not be showtunes unfortunately. Shame I know, maybe next week. 
 
Barbie Girl (1997) - this is one of Ariane’s Favorite songs, however she will never tell you that. This is her lets get drunk and sing this at the top of her lungs in an oversized Tshirt song. She will belt this song out in french in the comfort of her living room. In the locker room in Ottawa she will sit stone faced listening to it only tapping her skate every now and then. 
 
MMMbop (1997) - This is one that she blasts in the locker room right before practice to ease the tension in the room. The whole team just takes a second to Jam and yell out the catchy chorus from the Hanson Kids.  
 
Shake it off (2014) - this is her hype up, this is her Anthem, this is the song she rocks out to most and had the most plays on her spotify (cause apple music is booty). This is one of the few English songs she listens too and one day hopes to see Taylor live. 

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What is on Ariane Leblancs spotify a mere hours before she takes the ice? Well that is the interesting thing about her. She is often seen tapping her foot and singing in french while in the locker room. Most people assume it's Metal, Hard Rock, Punk, maybe even some techno. No, instead the left wing from Metz has been listening to Broadway musicals while she sits in her corner. Her eyes closed playing the same 3 songs. This is her routine, and has been since high school.
 
The first song on her playlist is “Waving Through a Window” from Dear Evan Hansen. The song holds weight for the woman as she often struggles with mental illness, fitting in. This helps her with her Anxiety before she enters a sold out arena. 
 
Next is “The Other Side '' helps her with her struggle of being an Assistant General Manager and a player. Showing the Duality of two things she loves as she slowly submits to one or the other following her true love and not loving comfort.
 
Finally she throws on “My Shot” from Hamilton. This is her song, the one that defines her. She is on a team that is not the best but all the faith is being put into her. The responsibilities she is being given in the league. The status she is rising too is making her weaver but she is driven and wont throw away her shot. This keeps her focused on her goals and what she has planned 

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