Molholt 2,185 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 atleast you get to do something and check out stats instead of sitting down and twiddling thumbs. The proposition means you'd have the option to be in the VHL straight away, ie. also not sitting down and twiddling your thumbs, in a league that actually matters. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-164524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 The proposition means you'd have the option to be in the VHL straight away, ie. also not sitting down and twiddling your thumbs, in a league that actually matters. The VHLM not mattering is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-164528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lere2001 90 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 The VHLM not mattering is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-164529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,943 Posted December 17, 2014 Admin Share Posted December 17, 2014 I care about the VHLM when I'm in it. To say only noobs care is taking an elitist viewpoint. I remember a time when the VHLM didn't matter and we actively campaigned to make it a bigger deal and make it more important so that new members would feel a part of the league. This VHLM reform is going the opposite direction of the VHLM reform that Victor fought so hard for before. I "fought" to make the VHLM a more independent and involving experience for people uncomfortable in getting right into the VHL talk. The VHLM mag and separate team forums accomplished that. Getting re-creates to care en masse was always a pipe dream. That said, I would like people to understand that this change is far from inevitable. I think some posts here can be misinterpreted but in fact the BOG is equally split and I don't see this happening. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-164533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 The proposition means you'd have the option to be in the VHL straight away, ie. also not sitting down and twiddling your thumbs, in a league that actually matters. So this automatically eliminates recreating at the deadline then huh? Elite guys still won't use the start in the VHL right away thing. It's also kind of just cheating because the VHLM is a process and weeds out players and check in on their commitment to the league so when team's draft that they don't get busts and GMs can monitor how players are updating throughout the VHLM season. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-164535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If it was skip the VHLM and have higher carryover vs doing the VHLM exactly as we have it now, I'd definitely still do the VHLM exactly as we have it now. If I had to forfeit carryover altogether in order to stay down, I'd probably go up, but only because I'd feel like I had to. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-164539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 The VHLM not mattering is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy. It matters to cultivate activity and learn the ins and outs of sim leagues and the VHL, which is not something that someone like myself or Boubabi need to go through. So to me, it lessens my interest in the league because it is a waste of multiple real life months of time towards the goal of being in the VHL. Da Trifecta and boubabi 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-164540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooningitup 1,290 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Im newer here and tbh had more fun in the VHLM than the VHL so much that ive debated on just being a career VHLMer Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/15454-re-creates-would-you-skip-the-vhlm-if-given-a-choice/page/3/#findComment-165825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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