BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Battle Of the Brands! What did Brands do for the league? · Added more to the individual identity of our league · Gave much needed contact money to rookies · Subsidized players who wanted to take low contracts for their GMs What was lacking about brands? · A format that made site members buy into the concept The Goal of My Idea: To revamp the brand format and bring back the much-needed contrgact boosts in a way that promotes site activity and allows both member and the new brand directors to have fun. Lets get into the competitive spirit and earn some cash ! The Math: 15 paid contracts x 8 teams = 120 cash contacts ranging from $2,000,000 to $500,000 With each team having $2,000,000 (x2), $1,500,000 (x1), $1,250,000 (x2), $1,000,000 (x2), $750,000 (x3) & $500,000 (x5) (That is not including the tops ups that were given to the 4 unpaid roster slots on each team that were also $500,000) The Proposal: To make this feel more like real sports I am suggesting that brand directors would hire players that they feel would best represent their brand. Players would sign on for a ranked spot in the roster (Higher ranked slots get paid out more money at the end of the season) It is both the players and the brand director's job to add to the brand thread. At the end of the season the most popular brand aka the brands with the most likes, comments and hopefully the best media presence would get ranked higher, becoming top tier bands that can pay more money to it's players. There would still be a mandatory number of VHL and VHLM players allowed on each brand payroll and all media created for the brand would have to be original. I feel with the number of active and creative people we have in VHL this might be a good way to make brands an active useful part of our site again. Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 1st Place Brand 2nd Place Brand 3rd Place Brand 4th Place Brand 5th Place Brand 6th Place Brand 7th Place Brand 8th Place Brand $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $1,500,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $1,500,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $1,500,000 $1,500,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $1,500,000 $1,500,000 $1,250,000 $1,250,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $1,500,000 $1,250,000 $1,250,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $500,000 $1,500,000 $1,250,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $1,250,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $1,250,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $1,000,000 $750,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $750,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $750,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $500,000 (Note: This chart has the same amount of cash being given out as brands did, and this could be easily altered to fit the sites needs, I just thought it would be good to keep the value the same for the sake of this suggestion) I was also thinking the would be fun to name the brand tiers and give them some fun classifications. For example, the bottom tier could be “claiming bankruptcy” or “No Name Brands” while the top tiers could be “Owns the Market” or “Gold Standard Brands”. Like I was stating I really think the site could have a lot of fun with this idea and it would bring back some jobs. As a note for the job aspect of this Brand directors would be responsible for content being added to their brand every week and keeping the brand pages active, as well as declaring their roster of contributors and making sure they fit the brand (Nicest guy on the site should not be on Haterade…lol) Edited July 13, 2019 by BladeMaiden Rayzor_7, xsjack, FrostBeard and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,601 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I still think this runs into the same problem of all the effort being put into it not being worth how little people car about it Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,601 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I don't think the cash was the problem with brands it was the whole overall concept. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Positivefan036 said: I still think this runs into the same problem of all the effort being put into it not being worth how little people car about it Literally every idea ever hangs on the buy in factor of the people you are aiming it at. VHL itself only exists on that principal that people buy into the sims sports experience. If this was something our core members bought into it could be fantastic. I am not saying it is a guaranteed hit, just food for thought and something that i thought would work with our loud and proud members. Idk why but I have a image of Dalhberg calling ppl out in a tweet and #ing haterade and this kinda fits how I see our player base atm. In the end it is an idea and one i have been waiting to share. I do think this would gain more traction than a tournament because we really don't do media battles on the forum for anything else. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sonnet said: This is similar to a thought I had a little while ago about brands, didn't make a post but I'm glad to see a lot of similarities with my line of thinking here. I think brands work better as a creative outlet, and forcing the brands to compete by putting together the best posts/ads/ect is a really interesting concept. I think it's a fair point to say that it relies entirely on the willingness of users to take the idea and run with it, as is with most things on the site of course. Don't think there's anything wrong with rewarding the more active/successful brands with a little extra cash to spend for a small TPE boost or something. Maybe introduce an idea that only pays the brands that are considered "top-tier" by the end of a season, giving players an incentive to really try to put their all into making something worthwhile. I actually love the idea of making things more competitive. For the record, you are one of the first people I would think of when selecting a brand director because I know someone with your passion would motivate the shit out of people, plus i know how much you hate to lose lol. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil 1,760 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 GIVE ME OVERARMOUR OR GIVE ME DEATH BladeMaiden 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted July 13, 2019 Admin Share Posted July 13, 2019 Would we not run into a problem of the most active and creative people going to the same 1 or 2 brands, voting for their own brands, and creating a perpetual cycle of the rich getting richer? Not unlike real life but not necessarily what we want to create here. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostBeard 2,049 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Victor said: Would we not run into a problem of the most active and creative people going to the same 1 or 2 brands, voting for their own brands, and creating a perpetual cycle of the rich getting richer? Not unlike real life but not necessarily what we want to create here. Make brand leaders as Dynamic Duos - you select 2 people to run a brand from the bunch of the most intriguing people that will gather around diverse crowd - yes, maybe for the first brand thingy there will be an issue of talent gathering around one brand, but that should make others get better and be better at marketing - I would say - it is worth giving a try anyway, at least something different. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,407 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I really like this idea, but one thing to point out is that determining which brand gets which rank based on the amount of contribution put into their thread can and will lead to spam, or just a bunch of comments made simply for the sake of commenting, much like the current lottery system. Still, though, this sounds like a great step in the right direction. Well done Blade. eaglesfan036 and Rayzor_7 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Victor said: Would we not run into a problem of the most active and creative people going to the same 1 or 2 brands, voting for their own brands, and creating a perpetual cycle of the rich getting richer? Not unlike real life but not necessarily what we want to create here. You underestimate the ability of the new VHL Crowd, we have a hungry bunch of newbies that would all want to win and we would also let an awards comity make the final judgement if you are really worried about the likes and comments. There is always a million ways you can chip away at ideas but I think this one might have an easy fix. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, Sonnet said: I think at the end of the day though, putting a bunch of resources and focus into brands might not really be worth the effort. I'm sure there's a good handful of people that would take it and make something of it, but overall, it'd likely end up being something that people just ignore outright. Hell, the best way to handle brands might be to just theme a graphic PT like an advertisement, or write a media spot that reads like the script for a commercial. If it is the truth that only the most bland, straight forward methods will work it is kind of sad. I would hope that people would care about a way to make their player better and interact with the community but I've seen the way that some people react to @member tags and I think their is some degree truth to your point. That being said, I don't see the harm in trying something new and seeing where that takes us, sometimes people can surprise you. You never know if you'll hit a home run if, you never swing the bat. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/65990-battle-of-the-brands-another-brand-concept-idea/#findComment-643598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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