diamond_ace 3,112 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I took Travis Boychuk with the 8th overall pick in the S37 VHL Entry Draft. At the time of the draft, I kept saying how active Boychuk was and how he was obviously deserving of the pick, just no one seemed to notice because of the time of night he was active. After the draft, a few people's immediate reactions were that Boychuk was a poor selection at that point and how I should have gone with this guy or that guy instead, or not have traded down, or any number of armchair GM statements. One common sentiment was that I should have taken Lars Strummer, and we all see how that one would have worked out. He's a welfare guy, and there's nothing wrong with that, except that he's missed three weeks of welfare. Point task guys, like Boychuk, have a little leeway to miss a task here or there. Welfare guys really don't. (I'd also like to state that this is not a criticism of Strummer himself, merely the concept of taking him at 8th, considering his activity level. Strummer has the right to be a welfare guy and even to miss weeks, but it doesn't make him more valuable than Boychuk, not by a long shot.) Keep it up, doubters. Boychuk is easily deserving of the pick, and in a redraft I might not have even been able to get him at 8th. He's one of the leading candidates for rookie of the year, and is one of the biggest reasons why we're having relative success on the year. People are going to come on and say things about hindsight, and how of course I know now that it was the right pick, but that's missing the point. I knew THEN that it was the right pick, because I MADE THE PICK. Hindsight is irrelevant. tl;dr Boychuk is awesome. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanesEuntDomus 442 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hey, leave Strummer alone But Boychuk was definitely a good pick, I was really hoping and actually expecting to get him at #10 and was quite disappointed when he was gone, even if it meant that Strummer would slip to us. I haven't seen too many people criticizing the selection though, did you really receive that much flak for the pick? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hey, leave Strummer alone But Boychuk was definitely a good pick, I was really hoping and actually expecting to get him at #10 and was quite disappointed when he was gone, even if it meant that Strummer would slip to us. I haven't seen too many people criticizing the selection though, did you really receive that much flak for the pick? Mostly in chat from one guy, who for the sake of anonymity, I won't name. Also, one of the podcasts criticized it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Geez Jason hindsight is 20/20 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I don't think anyone doubted Boychuk, I think you are making the doubting up in your head. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 I don't think anyone doubted Boychuk, I think you are making the doubting up in your head. Like I said, there was an individual with whom I'd discussed the plan to take Boychuk, and over the course of several chats he kept hedging his bets and saying how "Well if you think so" and "I don't remember seeing him around" and things like that. I overstated it for motivational purposes, but it was definitely there. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Was that me? I can't quite recall. I remember talking about Boychuck on a recent Pajodcast and his efforts/rookie of the year race. But I can't recall if I actually mentioned that he was an iffy pick. Either way the rebuild in Calgary is finally coming along. Smoother than I think most may have thought, credit to you and your "hindsight" Jason. Edited May 29, 2014 by Devise22 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Like I said, there was an individual with whom I'd discussed the plan to take Boychuk, and over the course of several chats he kept hedging his bets and saying how "Well if you think so" and "I don't remember seeing him around" and things like that. I overstated it for motivational purposes, but it was definitely there. So doubter. Haha, I think you did overstate it a bit because as one of the main reasons behind Boychuk being here (I recruited him) I never doubt guys. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 So doubter. Haha, I think you did overstate it a bit because as one of the main reasons behind Boychuk being here (I recruited him) I never doubt guys. No, it definitely wasn't you. Devise, it wasn't you either, but I do think you guys on the Pajodcast had said something about it post-draft, or it may have been another podcast. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Oh no, I'm not saying it was me or thinking you were pointing fingers at me. I just said that one doubter was the only one, so it seems this story got blown up haha. Or maybe you just like 1 TPE. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,359 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Pajodcast doubted Draper not Boychuk... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted May 29, 2014 Admin Share Posted May 29, 2014 Pajodcast doubted Draper not Boychuk... Pajodcast always picks the best prospect and puts them down. #reversepsychology Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Pajodcast doubted Draper not Boychuk... Different draft homie Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Or maybe you just like 1 TPE. This definitely has a lot to do with it Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Svoboda_3 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I knew Boychuk was a gem in Turku Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I knew Boychuk was a gem in Ottawa. diamond_ace 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-78867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,745 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Do you see anyone in the next draft with similar potential? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-79042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,359 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Different draft homie Yeah I know......... IMHO tbqh... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-79505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Do you see anyone in the next draft with similar potential? Let's just say yes and leave it at that, no sense divulging industry secrets. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8565-doubters/#findComment-79508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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