Admin Victor 11,009 Posted June 2, 2015 Admin Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yeah I was gonna mention that but reconsidered because maybe Barristan's death is a sign of things changing up in that regard? Drogon IS still out there but they also seem to be giving more attention to Jorah who's not really part of it in the book. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,868 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 If they had a pit fight with no dragon riding conclusion I'd light myself on fire. I feel like Tyrion and Jorah Connington will be taking more of Barristan's role. Which will likely just be reduced to, "Fuck this place, we're going to Westeros" by S06E05 or something. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
probably not noah 346 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 FOR THE WATCH Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 FOR THE WATCH i got too much shit to do to recap on this thread but i swear to fuck if Olly takes this spot i'm gonna be livid Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 i got too much shit to do to recap on this thread but i swear to fuck if Olly takes this spot i'm gonna be livid I'm pretty sure you're going to be livid. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,868 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm also sure of this. Before the season started I thought they were gonna stick with Marsh because they casted a dude for him, but I don't even know if he's had speaking lines yet, and it's episode 9. It would be worse if it was Ser Alliser. And they've been hyping up Olly to do it from the first. All that doubt and all those death stares. And the horrible lesson from Sam, "Sometimes people do things that are presumably bad for the greater good!" Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm pretty sure you're going to be livid Yeah honestly I don't see it happening. I'm ready... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) I'm also sure of this. Before the season started I thought they were gonna stick with Marsh because they casted a dude for him, but I don't even know if he's had speaking lines yet, and it's episode 9. It would be worse if it was Ser Alliser. And they've been hyping up Olly to do it from the first. All that doubt and all those death stares. And the horrible lesson from Sam, "Sometimes people do things that are presumably bad for the greater good!" I thought it was him that ran against Alliser/Jon for Lord Commander but then I realized, it was Dennis Mallister right? But yeah, exactly Jardy. The worst thing Sam could have told him was exactly what he did. "Sometimes you have to do what you know is right in your heart even if people won't agree with you." Meant Jon/Wildlings, unknowingly gave Olly the last bit of a push he probably needed to just be like fuck it, I'm killing Jon cuz I know it's right in my heart. Edited June 3, 2015 by Caillean Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,868 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I thought it was him that ran against Alliser/Jon for Lord Commander but then I realized, it was Dennis Mallister right? Yeah. I think they were going to give him more scenes and draw out that whole process a little bit, but the actor died during filming, so he was very low key. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yeah. I think they were going to give him more scenes and draw out that whole process a little bit, but the actor died during filming, so he was very low key. Didn't know that, that sucks. Poor guy. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-224733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,009 Posted June 17, 2015 Admin Share Posted June 17, 2015 omg hahahahaha by removing Aegon, show Varys in season 1 now tried (and would have succeeded had 0.01% chance of Jorah interference not happened) to poison the person he has always wanted to take the throne. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-229579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 And Balon won the War of the Five Kings!!!! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-229626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 And Balon won the War of the Five Kings!!!! Fire Tortorella 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-229652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,009 Posted June 18, 2015 Admin Share Posted June 18, 2015 I guess Stannis won it in the books... so that war is completely irrelevant in light of recent events. To be fair to the show though, does Varys poisoning Daenerys make sense in the book either? I thought he was a general Targaryen supporter. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-229762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks. 58 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I guess Stannis won it in the books... so that war is completely irrelevant in light of recent events. To be fair to the show though, does Varys poisoning Daenerys make sense in the book either? I thought he was a general Targaryen supporter. Varys is a Varys supporter. He was safe and comfortable as Robert's spider. While I'm certain he would prefer to support House Targaryen I respect Varys for taking the logical approach to maintain his influence. Varys was operating in a future world where Robert lives and Dany dies and planned accordingly. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-235559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,868 Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 I guess Stannis won it in the books... so that war is completely irrelevant in light of recent events. To be fair to the show though, does Varys poisoning Daenerys make sense in the book either? I thought he was a general Targaryen supporter. No. Luckily, I have just happened to finish re-reading ASOS, and I came upon this quote I forgot about/never really noticed... “A lie.” Ser Jorah’s face darkened. “I would never... Daenerys, it was me who stopped you from drinking the wine.” “Yes. And how was it you knew the wine was poisoned?” “I... I but suspected... the caravan brought a letter from Varys, he warned me there would be attempts. He wanted you watched, yes, but not harmed.” And in the first book even Littlefinger claims to Ned he convinced them to try the assassination on the cheap so there would be a better chance of it failing, which I kind of believe. Mind you, in the context he was trying to sound like he was pro-Ned "Don't kill the children," when in reality he just likes stirring shit up. All the same, there does seem to be a couple of hints that the assassination was kind of designed to fail from the start. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,009 Posted July 6, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 6, 2015 I can now rest at ease. But I'm still disappointed in the Aegon omission. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I never thought of this one. Why was Robb the only one of Ned's kids besides Rickon that never got a PoV? Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,009 Posted July 6, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 6, 2015 cuz POV characters never die. Except Ned. And Jon, maybe. And sort of Catelyn. But they actually have a pretty decent survival record if you look at the whole picture. Also he was almost always in the same place as Catelyn. And I guess nothing interesting happened just to him and he wasn't a particularly interesting human being. Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'd rather have had a Robb PoV than Cat, I fuckin hated her. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,009 Posted July 6, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 6, 2015 The depressed mother quota was in desperate need of filling. Handsome teenage warlord was overfilling. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The depressed mother quota was in desperate need of filling. Handsome teenage warlord was overfilling. idgaf about handsome, Robb was far and away fighting the most interesting battles. Jon (much as I love him) was brooding on the Wall, and I can't think about any other handsome teenage warlord PoVs. I would much rather have seen what was going on wth Robb from his PoV. Then again, we wouldn't have gotten the shock of finding out about him betraying his promise to the Freys, we would have seen it happening, etc. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,911 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I now want a Rickon POV, Reek-style in that he has a completely different name on Skagos and you don't realize it's him until partway through. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-238841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks. 58 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I'd rather have had a Robb PoV than Cat, I fuckin hated her. Me too but reading her die was the most metal experience of my life. I felt legitimate terror. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-239529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,868 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 On my first read I don't even remember the specific details after Robb was stabbed and Jinglebell and Cat got their throats cut because I was so stressed out and traumatized. My eyes were refusing to take in anymore information. I got to the epilogue where Merrett was like, "she still had her own claw marks on her face" and I was thinking, "The fuck is this guy talking about?" Then I had to re-read the last page and a half and I was sad again. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/4/#findComment-239915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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