Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Either way my vote is cast though. I've been a bit sus of you Hatter for a while and at this point I'm fairly certain it's you. I could be wrong but at this point the die is cast Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ptyrell said: Sorry Hatter. I'm going with what Mike thinks, and with what my gut is telling me. It's possible I could be wrong, but usually the correct answer in these situations is the one that is the most straightforward. And in this case, that's you being TT, so Im sticking with that. Please reconsider your actions, if you are town this is throwing the game away. The most straightforward outcome if I was TT was that the game would be over right now because I could have shot Caboose last night and LITERALLY WON THE GAME AS TT. Nothing else matters. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptyrell 415 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr_Hatter said: Your logic about Maf not having a kill N1 is completely off, they attacked in jail IIRC, and more importantly I killed two Jesters. Jesters don't have basic defense, so even if they did attack one of those Jesters the Jester would have died, there is no way that I knew they were neutral 100% You sure have a lot of intimate knowledge of what the mafia's actions were a week ago. Would have taken me at least a few minutes of going back through forum pages to find out those answers... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Ptyrell said: You sure have a lot of intimate knowledge of what the mafia's actions were a week ago. Would have taken me at least a few minutes of going back through forum pages to find out those answers... It happened on night one, it was incredibly quick to look this up Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Mr_Hatter said: Osens said he was shot. Not one of the Jesters That comment has nothing to do with what I said and honestly makes me believe you less Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Caboose30 said: That comment has nothing to do with what I said and honestly makes me believe you less Yes it does. You claim I "knew" there was a neutral because Mafia didn't get a kill N1. I'm showing that to be false because osens said he was attacked N1, which would have been the mafia kill Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Caboose30 said: Either way my vote is cast though. I've been a bit sus of you Hatter for a while and at this point I'm fairly certain it's you. I could be wrong but at this point the die is cast No, that is a horrible way to play the game. Obviously if you are TT you should try to kill me, but logically speaking what was stopping me from killing you last night and guaranteeing the win for me (if I was TT) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 @PtyrellPlease reconsider your vote. Logically, there is no way I am TT. I could have won the game already Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Mr_Hatter said: No, that is a horrible way to play the game. Obviously if you are TT you should try to kill me, but logically speaking what was stopping me from killing you last night and guaranteeing the win for me (if I was TT) This is a good point. If either of us were TT all we needed was a kill for the win. At the same time you could be fucking with me. @Ptyrellwhat exactly was your role afain? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptyrell 415 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Im not changing my vote Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Caboose30 said: This is a good point. If either of us were TT all we needed was a kill for the win. At the same time you could be fucking with me. @Ptyrellwhat exactly was your role afain? I promise you I am not. He claimed LO I believe Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I want a full will from you Ptyrell Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 @Caboose30, if you are town, just consider this. As a Crusader, you have no way to protect yourself. If I was the TT, and I shot you last night, the game would already be over. That is the only thing that matters right now. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr_Hatter said: @Caboose30, if you are town, just consider this. As a Crusader, you have no way to protect yourself. If I was the TT, and I shot you last night, the game would already be over. That is the only thing that matters right now. Which is the only reason I'm considering you to be telling the truth. Likewise if I had been on you last night and Ptyrell had visited I would have won. Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I wanted to force a day vote by not accidentally killing Ptyrell but also forcing you to decide between me and Ptyrell to try and kill to force a win Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptyrell 415 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Caboose30 said: @Ptyrellwhat exactly was your role afain? Lookout N1: jorg - omg N2: jorg - omg, lefty, osens N3: jorg - omg N4: osens - none N5: jorg - omg N6: Hatter - omg, solas, osens, +1 more (Caboose/Crusader) N7: Caboose - none N8: Caboose - none N9: no action Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I have a lot to think about and @PtyrellI still want a will from you. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Caboose30 said: Which is the only reason I'm considering you to be telling the truth. Likewise if I had been on you last night and Ptyrell had visited I would have won. Then what from Ptyrell's will would make that situation change? Not that I'm not ok with you waiting for all the info, take your time, but I believe that the only thing that matters is that if I was TT the game would be over already. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Keep in mind, this is TT. Ptyrell is definitely the LO, but the question is is he TT. His will shouldn't look any different from a real LO if he played it right Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Mr_Hatter said: Then what from Ptyrell's will would make that situation change? Not that I'm not ok with you waiting for all the info, take your time, but I believe that the only thing that matters is that if I was TT the game would be over already. 1) I know you're smart, and tbh I'm a very untrusting person when it comes to these games. You could in theory just be pulling me along. 2) I wanted to see if his will was reflective of Maf movement Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptyrell 415 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Hatter you could have shot someone last night, but you didn't because you had no reason to. You were on the way to winning already! Obviously hindsight is 20:20, but in no way does not shooting someone last night somehow exonerate you from all the other evidence that points to you being TT Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/3/2021 at 11:54 AM, WentzKneeFan036 said: I am psychic Ptyrell, omgitshim, or JigglyGumballs is evil! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Granted Jiggs was evil, but there can be 2 evils on those results Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I havent played enough TT to know, but @Mr_Hatterwould the TT come up as sus/evil Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Ptyrell said: Hatter you could have shot someone last night, but you didn't because you had no reason to. You were on the way to winning already! Obviously hindsight is 20:20, but in no way does not shooting someone last night somehow exonerate you from all the other evidence that points to you being TT Literally there is no evidence that points to me being TT. You are saying I had no reason to, but the reason is completely apparent by the fact that I can be lynched right now. On my way to winning =/= winning. In fact, me not shooting someone last night does exonerate me because if I was town and guessed wrong then not only would I die the next night, but I wouldn't have a bullet to use Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/19/#findComment-813539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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