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Hmm, deja vu. Predicted this result in the mag.

Those are sort of unique ideas. Don't mind them too much. Would be hard to come up with a bunch maybe, but it connects the league and users. Don't mind my opinion though. I'm the dumbest ever

Where did I say "What was your suggestion?" Did you or did you not state we should use a version of another leagues idea because it worked well for that league? I don't understand why you're getting so upset. I haven't called you dumb or anything like that?

1. No. You don't. I never asked for it. 2. What would posting you idea do? Are you suggesting we have to do it simply because you suggested it? Okay, you weren't crying - but did you not say that it was a good idea to do it because another league had been doing it?? Wouldn't that be copying another league?

Also, @KGR, I don't think I've ever disrespected you for anything you've had to offer for the benefit of the VHL. Don't see why I earn disrespect for offer my time and ideas to the VHL. hmm.

We're trying to look for ideas to improve the league and it's activity. For new and old members to enjoy the league more. I'm constantly offering up ideas that could make the league better. How does me stating "themed point tasks" make me the "dumbest person" you've ever met? You must surround yourself with only the most intelligent people (sarcasm alert). The Hall of Fame remark was sarcasm (as was the draft etc). It was mocking your claims that we have to be 100% different. Clearly, the sarcasm in the entire paragraph went over your head and you mistook it for something literal. What ideas do you suggest that aren't currently in the SHL, GOMHL or other leagues? Weren't you the one crying about having one point task count for another one because some football league has that or something? I don't see how we're a carbon copy because we use one of their ideas..? lol I suppose I'm the only one who sees it as a good idea? I guess it doesn't bring activity or enjoyment to the league.

That makes no sense..? So we can't have some themed point tasks, even if it's a good idea? Simply because the SHL has it? @Devise @Beketov please, we have to get rid of the Hall of Fame because the SHL has a HOF. Can we also please get rid of international tournaments and drafts because the SHL has those too. We'll just have players auto onto teams. Pretty sure LR's are at the top on SHL, too. @KGR claims we can't have any similarities so please may we move them to the bottom for the sake of "SHL is SHL. VHL is VHL. Thanks. Right now, go through the media section. You have the same bullshit over and over again. You have statistics out the ring yang because they're the easiest to do. It's the same old dry stuff over and over again. I see zero issue in having some themed point tasks to give the members some "variety" while also not having them struggle to write the same bullshit week after week. Frankly, I struggle to find different variations to write something I wrote 9 weeks ago. What exactly is wrong with having similarities between the SHL and VHL? You do realize, @KGR, that a large similarity we share is MEMBERS? Shall we get rid of those members because SHL is SHL, VHL is VHL?

Members stat hunt for free already. Also, I doubt new members give a shit about stats, nor really know where to look. Sure, it'll help them maybe learn the boards but there's not much significance behind it. Example. How many goalies to Maxwell score in S67? A bunch of members will look for the answers, private message "34" and then earn TPE for that. I don't see a large advantage or benefit for anyone.

@KGR What's funny about it? Yes, like the SHL does. Wasn't aware we had to be completely the opposite of them. I'm almost 100% confident it works for them. It adds variety and honestly, it's a lot more fun to write about some of the topics they make up then the same old bullshit I've been writing for the last 3-4 players. I look on the media spot section and it's the same old members writing the same old articles season after season with small variations to the words and topics. You can only regurgitate so much. The only thing that changes is numbers and names. If it's funny to you @KGR, I'm curious why it is and why it isn't a good idea? I see it as giving a fun topic to members to write about to earn tpe. Something they don't need to struggle with while thinking about a topic and something they may have fun writing and reading. Nothing wrong with variety. Nothing wrong with fun and making light of writing or graphics. Is it the same as SHL? Yes. So what..?

Themed point tasks or graphics.

A 6 TPE activity on top of everything else is WAY too much.. Id say even 3 EVERY week is too much. Id say maybe 1 a week with the additional of season PT's/activities. Also, while the focus should be on new members, it should also be on veteran ones too. I have an idea for a "once a career" writinf thing, but wont release it until @Beketovuts me in BOG

I like the first bullet - though, maybe additional ways to earn TPE should be for both the VHL and VHLM. I gets old doing the same shit week after week, season after season, player after player. A couple seasonal point tasks would be a fun idea. I don't like the second bullet. Sort of silly to have a random draw. Maybe give each draftee a task. Example, write a 300 word letter or scouting report for GM's to know why they should draft your player. Sort of "draft" based task or something maybe? Could be anything really. Unsure on the 3rd one. The GM's could very easily give easy and stupid tasks to their players for the sake of winning or gaining better, stronger players. I see this being something that could be taken advantage of and therefor, may have to veto the idea.

P.S #bana4BOG (now, not later).

@Beketov @Devise Glad activity has the potential of rising in the media/point task section. Next two things I'd love to discuss would be seasonal point tasks (maybe 2 a season - each with a PT head that gives out things to write about). Keeps things from getting stale and having the same old shit again and again. Make it more fun and interesting to write and read about too. Lastly, game threads would be a nice place to try and raise activity.

Not a bad idea and I do support it (and like how it will raise activity), however, I see a lot of people bull shitting their way through it just to gain the easy TPE. Either way though, it raises activity I guess.

Something regarding activity could tie into this. I like that idea. Reward the team or members potentially for this. Though, lots probably still wouldn't give a shit about some arena and such

I was going to go on a tagging rampage and get as many members there as possible, but it stopped at you

Whatever creates activity

What ideas do you have? Let's hear em I sorta agree, maybe. Dunno. Could be something that works!

Hope you consider it and will be considered for it. Also, no. I literally was just going off the top of my head, trying to maybe bring back some old members and typing the "@" sign and letters Missed a couple guys.

@Tyler congrats, dude. @ADV welcome back. Look forward to dealing with both of you!

He's still kicking about, but I do not believe at his activity level he is anywhere close to being an acceptable VHLM GM. And did you not put your name in the hat for being a VHLM GM? Wanting to relocate? I remember your name popping up and such.

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Lately, as everyone knows, the VHL has been transitioning itself in the hopes that we see a better "future" when comparing it to the recent "past" and currently our "present". The first of many moves we're likely to see have consisted of moving the LR threads (shit idea, but I seen their point in it), hiring two new commissioners in @Devise and @Beketov, an announcement that the BOG will be getting revamped (would be nice to see what they do - and who does what), and overall, just more shit getting done quicker and more efficiently. While these are all good starts, bigger moves are going to have the be played if the VHL is going to be rescued from he dark, grim "inactivity" period. I won't be the one to cry "the league is dying", though I have said it before. Yet, let's be honest with ourselves here. The league isn't necessarily 'healthy" either. Right? We have a huge number of players on welfare and while I do agree that they're a good part of the side and are needed, some do fuck all for activity. Something in my eyes that would help with activity is board activity. The SHL, while a different league and in no means comparable really, has two things on us and it's member amount of activity. Their board is usually bumping 24/7 with lots of posts on articles, game threads and shit like that. THAT is what we need. I've tried the last little while writing articles that stirred up fun, involved tons of people, offered ideas and got people talking. Hopefully this one does it too. Ideas to raise league activity 1. Find Quality VHL and VHLM GM's They get hired, they step down. They got hired, they went inactive. They got hired, they're shit GM's or raise shit around the league. These are not the GM's we need in the VHLM. The first step here is not hiring dicks, assholes or people who have a past history (or current one) of being immature cunts. Not a hard one there. Secondly, we have a couple GM's right now @Megster and one who currently stepped down that didn't do a whole lot and/or are inactive. I get giving new members a chance, but if you have history of going inactive, earn your chance or sulk. We need better VHLM GM's. @Frank @Corco. I know it's a shitty spot, but @Kendrick was very passionate about a team - though, with the addition of relocation. The VHLM is a starter for new members. Fuck team history. That's for the VHL. If a GM is going to be dedicated and despite sometimes maybe being a dick they're 100% committed to the league and new members, don't see how it's a bad thing. 2. More opportunities for members to be active There SHL offers ways to earn TPE, but also money. This gives them more chances to better their players, but also gives them opportunities to display their activity to the league. If one player becomes more active, generally it rubs off on other players. I get it fucks the update scale or inflation or whatever the shit, but the more opportunities we have to make money, the better it is for you, myself and the league. Why not hold more seasonal things? Post around the board? Find a way to improve rivalries and/or game threads? 3. Be inventive - offer to members unique things other leagues don't offer. Don't know the ideas. They're not 100% ideas, but they could be something that blossoms. Some may be stupid, some may be bold. Some might not work while others may work very nicely. What about some of these? 1. VHL Stock Markets - Have seasonal, or weekly, stocks based off organizations and their performances. Pretty much, networths and total values of organizations or buying "stocks" and "shares". This allows players to play with their money - potentially earning some, or possibly losing some. We'd have to find a system, but it wouldn't be too hard. If a team is kicking ass and winning, stocks are high. People likely will buy. If they all of a sudden rebuild, time to probably sell as the price is gonna dip. If a team sucks but lands a huge player, maybe time to buy in on stocks as they might shoot up a couple of points, etc. I get it;s not how stocks work, but it likely could bring about activity. 2. Weekly Players Section - Here's another job for members and it's super fucking easy. Monday through Sunday, combine all the sims and find the weeks "weekly players". 3 Forwards, 3 Dman and 3 goalies? Or whatever. Maybe 5-5-3? Pay them 2 TPE for the week (VHL.com and job?? = 2 TPE) for 8 TPE total with media spot?? Have them make a picture of the 3 players, then the statistics of each while posting their names? @solas @punkhippie 3. Ability to purchase equipment/Revamp the store - May need slightly better contracts/cap, or different ways to earn a little jingle, but maybe let players buy some gloves, sticks, skates or goalie pads? Let them have a minor affect on their players? no more than +2 or 3 to their players for a total cost of 500k for once a season. Let them affect two attributes for a total of 4 TPE for 500k. 4. Team OWNERS - A little different, sure. Usually the VHL hires the managers, but let's bring in some Darryl Katz and shit. Put every team at ZERO owners. No one owns anyone. AGAIN, we may have to look at financing here. Maybe raise the cap? Maybe raise contracts? OR maybe allow for 50% of your money to carryover?? Example, I have 7 MILL when I retire, 3.5M carries over to the next player. For initial purchase of an organization, it's 10MILL. Whoever buys it, gets to pick the GM, and shit like that. It could lead to trouble, but we'd find ways and rules to fix it. If someone buys a team, no one can fire current GM's that are CURRENTLY GMing. So right now, I GM Seattle, STZ in NYA, Hedgey in Rig ETC. NONE of those GM's can be fired. The only way the owners can hire a new GM is by the current GM's stepping down. IF and when they do, the GM the owner hires can FIRE that GM if they choose to. Maybe we can hand out GM contracts? 1M capping out at per season? 5. Bring Team Finances into play - Sell merchandise based off team performance, tickets - have the team make sweet MONEY. Put this money towards building an arena. Maybe have every team start with a 10,000 capacity shit hole and have them build. We're at 1,151 words as of the end of this sentence but let's keep on going.. NEW POINT TASKS - I think that's a big thing that drives the SHL. NEW and updating point tasks. Not the same old shit that we struggle to write about because everything has been written about a thousand fucking times. you go back through the seasons and look at all the writing and excluding the odd few, it's like jerking off to the same old porn flick again and again and again... and again. This is stale. This is boring. No wonder no one gives a shit and doesn't read them or post. Why not have weekly point tasks or how about this?? Each season, have a point task at every THIRD of the season. So start the season off with a point task which you'd give members until the 23rd game to complete. The following between the 23rd-46th game and the next between the 46th and 72nd. This offers 3 chances at activity, earning TPE and "enjoyment" and "variety" throughout the league. Then, in playoffs, have a point tasks every round or each season hold a "champions point task" similar to Championship Week in the SHL. EACH point task, a member has to post a 300 word article or do some sort of graphic. EXAMPLE: S57: Point Task #1 (Game 1 to Game 23) Written: It's the start of a new year. You may or may not have new faces in your locker room. Explain walking back into the locker room and what you felt and seen? Did you feel a sense of joy, sadness or anger? Did you see your buddies, a new team mascot, a donkey wearing a mask or a teammate you absolutely despise? 300 words. Graphic: Using your graphic skills and while using the above information, create visual of your teams locker room. Lack of effort will result in a lower payout. Try and be unique + creative. That's 1,400+ words - so I'm done for the day. YET, discuss everyone. Let's bring about new, unique and interesting ideas to the league members, BOG and commissioners. Maybe an issue with the league is that it's the same old shit and it's getting stale. ALSO, #Banackock4BOG Claim 6 for Forsberg