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    Ptyrell got a reaction from Gustav in A Gustav 30 in 30, #11: Go Directly to Jail   
    Good stuff man. You've brought a lot of entertainment and joy to a lot of people thanks to your efforts in ToS.
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    Ptyrell reacted to Gustav in A Gustav 30 in 30, #11: Go Directly to Jail   
    I promise this image made perfect sense in context.
     
     
    The game of Mafia was invented in 1987 by a student at Moscow State University who has definitely never heard of the VHL. That student probably never envisioned Among Us the lengths to which the world would go to study the game, from profitable spin-offs to home-brew versions to even real mathematical research devoted to its analysis. Playing a game like Mafia requires intuition, wit, and lots of knowledge of game mechanics.
     
    And running one takes even more.
     
    My first exposure to Mafia came much earlier than I thought it was, when @Nykonax floated the idea of a game way back in May of 2019--this would have been S66. He ended up getting a decent-sized player list and making a game happen. At the time, I had absolutely no idea what I was doing. Not much that was being said in the game thread made much sense to me, and I walked away from the experience considering it largely forgettable. But, I was now aware that this was a thing that could be done on forums.
     
    I must have retained that knowledge pretty soon after that, because I remember playing a game in the SBA right around the time of our affiliation fallout. That changed not much of anything about what I knew about the game, but I had retained the basic idea of talking during the day and doing things at night. I'd also joined the EFL (which I will openly admit was fueled by wanting affiliate checks), and in one of those affiliate leagues, I had my first exposure to Town of Salem--a game that you can find on Steam (although I've never played it) that is essentially just a fancy version of Mafia. It turns out that, as a fancy version of Mafia, Town of Salem (or ToS) is readily adapted to a forum game. I still didn't really know what I was talking about in the EFL, but they had a long rule thread and I was more comfortable hanging around there with it being a league that I knew had nothing against me being VHL-first.
     
    By this point, it was clear to me that--even though I was clueless--the Mafia concept had managed to stick around for more than just a one-off in our affiliate leagues, and I'd also watched lots of people in those leagues play the games and like them a lot. It was something the VHL was missing, and I was bored--so I figured I should take matters into my own incompetent hands.
     
    For those of you who are unfamiliar by this point, Mafia (in general) is a two-sided game consisting of an "informed minority," or an "evil" group of players who plot with each other behind the scenes to kill the others, and an "uninformed majority," or a "good" group who must use their own skills and find out who the bad ones are by talking out in the open (where the bad ones try to blend in and mess with their plans). There are lots of variations on this, many with more unique roles than others. I wasn't confident, so I eventually found myself digging through rule sets on some mafia game forum and settling on a game called Cult in the Jungle Republic where 12 of the 19 people who would end up playing were just residents of the town with no special abilities. We played the game, but most people didn't really like it for that reason--why would you want to play the game where you really couldn't do much aside from following votes? So, it was clear to me that to keep this thing going, we would need to go full Town of Salem--where every single player has a job to do and there are lots of layers to the game beyond just Town and Mafia.
     
    Did I establish by this point that I had no clue what I was doing? Whatever. In any case, I relied on two things in equal measure to learn the game, without either of which the game would not be possible. The first was the Town of Salem Wiki, which has every possible role extensively documented with enough information that a game can be run if you read closely enough. The second was @omgitshim, who has every possible role also extensively documented in his head, as well as enough patience that a game can be run even if you're stupid. I spent lots of hours over lots of days dealing with both of those until I felt that I got the point, and then I finally put up the sign-up thread for the VHL's first-ever game of Town of Salem, just over a year after I joined the league and about four months after Cult in the Jungle Republic flopped. Check out the date on that one--is it really a surprise to anyone that we all had the time in our lives to get the game off the ground?
     
    ToS #1 was a success, all in all. It took forever--no other game we've played has even started to approach Day 13--but it was a big learning experience for lots of people (myself included) and I had an absolute blast every time I started the night phase and got to see in real time who was taking shots at who. I stuck with asking OMG everything for the most part, but made it through my first game ever without a major crisis. 
     
    I knew I'd run lots of games at the start, but I had no idea just how frequently I was doing it and I could never pull that type of thing off today. Within a week, I was signing people up for Game 2, and we'd run up 10 games between the end of March and the end of August--that's one game (which itself took just over a week on average between sign-up and last kill) about every two weeks over that time. I'm honestly shocked that we were able to maintain our player base that constantly, but I suppose that's all we had going on over the summer of 2020. In a way, I wouldn't doubt it if COVID was what gave us the amount of interested people to begin with, or if it was the reason why ToS caught on.
     
    Regardless, lots of those interested people deserve my mentions. My handy-dandy stat tracking sheets give me all the info I need to tag those who have been involved the most--obviously OMG, but he and @eaglesfan036 have been considered our nastiest, most competent players from the very start. @Doomsday, @Ricer13, @jhatty8, and @Berocka can also all claim to have played just about every single game we've run (with Eagles, Berocka, and @Devise both running their own spin-off versions of ToS at one point or another). Some others who have stuck around consistently for a long time and are still active in our threads today are @Spartan , @Advantage, @N0HBDY, @rory, @Alex, and even @Ptyrell, who has never had a VHL player but has posted over 1,000 times on our forum for ToS and related games (including his own creative project, Town of Pallet). All of these and much, much more have made Town of Salem what it is, which is an awesome way for the community to really feel like a community. I've had so much fun watching everyone go at each other over the past four years (!) and I'm looking forward to a lot more.
     
    To bring it back to being a point in the series about my own personal history, this wasn't the first time I decided to just do something fun for the community rather than waiting for it, but it was the most work I'd ever put into that. I think the league would be a much better place if it had more "just doing" in it, and Town of Salem is something I'll always be able to point to as an example of that. Even though it has absolutely nothing to do with the sim hockey part of the league (and therefore is just one of the "intangibles" on my record), I consider it one of my biggest VHL accomplishments and really feel that it deserves a solid place in this series.
     
     

    Read my other articles for the full Gustav experience:
     
    #1: Lightning Glory Gonna Be My Name
    #2: Can't We All Just Get Along?
    #3: Who Needs Cybersecurity Anyway?
    #4: The House That I Built
    #5: Can We Fix It?
    #6: American Beauty
    #7: The Kids Are Alright
    #8: Dogs In A Pile
    #9: I Just Wanna Grill For God's Sake
    #10: This Old House
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    Ptyrell reacted to Gustav in Town of Salem Updates   
    Some notes from last game and a cool new stat update:
     
    MEDIUM CHANGES:
    Dead chat, moving forward, will only be usable during Night phases. This is to reflect the real game's mechanics more accurately and to prevent multiple exchanges of info between dead chat and the game thread during the same Day phase. I hope this will also cut down on some metagaming. Speaking of which, I'm going to start disallowing non-game-related modes of confirming a Medium. Any game-related info is 100% OK to use, but personal info (i.e. "Eagles knows what my middle name is; if you can tell me my middle name from Eagles in dead chat I'll believe you're Medium") is not--it is simply beyond the spirit of the game and outside the role's intent. I am not sure yet what I'll do to enforce this, but please just make that part easy on me by not participating in that.  
    GENERAL CHANGES:
    This was also Medium-related in the last game, but it applies to any role. Please don't directly copy-paste Discord messages. If you'd like to copy the words of a message...I don't like it, but I don't really care. This crosses the line, though, if the copy-paste contains names and time stamps (and this is especially so if everything is still in Discord rich text formatting). At the very least, I will delete your post for this (even if you're taking the time to fake it), and I reserve the right to modkill over this if it's game-swaying enough.  
    On the cooler side, I updated the role sheet! It now has a cool overview tab at the start that will make asking (and answering) some trivia questions a lot more convenient--and is also just cool to look at in my opinion. Did you know that Jailors have recorded over double the number of kills to any other Town Killing role, but have a lower winning percentage than two of the other three? I didn't before today. Also, if you're assigned a Mafia role, your chance of winning is slightly higher than with a Coven role (so far). Plus, Guardian Angel is the only role that's still active that has never lost. The more you know!
     
    Have fun with this update, and I'll see you in Game 30!
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    Ptyrell reacted to Cartripp14 in Town of Salem #29   
    Really sorry for everyone asking for a claim from me, but I don't get home in time to reply here before it closes for the night. A little hard to claim when the thread is closed.
     
    I am a townie and am still a little bit confused on this whole game and have been trying to read up on all roles to try to figure some things out. Really haven't gotten anywhere with that yet though tbh
     
     
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    Ptyrell reacted to GoodLeftUndone in Town of Salem #29   
  6. Cheers
    Ptyrell reacted to jacobaa19 in Town of Salem #29   
    I’ve just been sitting home waiting for someone to show
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from rory in Town of Salem #29   
    I am the lookout. Been on our jailor rory both nights. The same 2 other people have visited him both nights, and seem likely to be TPs to me.
     
    I would like to request that the player who has been on rory whose 2nd letter in their name is one of the first 8 letters of the alphabet starts protecting me at night. I figure that's OK with you @rory?
     
    Let's get some more claims out there. This is a big game, so it's going to take a little while to filter through everyone. Even if you don't have anything useful to say, getting your claim out there starts to reduce the room for evils to hide and still helps. Even if you've accomplished nothing so far, claiming still helps.
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    Ptyrell reacted to Alex in Town of Salem #29   
    Lemorse said they were attacked N1, them being arso confirms that they would have had defense.
     
    I'm also fine to push a quiet person
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    Ptyrell reacted to rory in Town of Salem #29   
    Lemorse claimed attacked if we believe that.
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    Ptyrell reacted to omgitshim in Town of Salem #29   
    It's to test Guatav
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    Ptyrell reacted to Adrest245 in Town of Salem #29   
    Omg tryna kill ricer
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from Ricer13 in Town of Salem #29   
    Well technically all 3 were roleblocked and could be mafia. In fact, I think we can say it is likely that one of them is mafia since there wasn't a mafia kill.
     
    Hearing claims from them and having a plan for tonight seems like a good thing to accomplish for day 2.
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from woog in Town of Salem #29   
    To be fair, they probably thought they were going to kill Ricer.
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from eaglesfan036 in Town of Salem #29   
    To be fair, they probably thought they were going to kill Ricer.
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    Ptyrell reacted to Doomsday in Town of Salem #29   
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    Ptyrell reacted to woog in Town of Salem #29   
    Hello good people of Salem.

    Hello bad people of Salem. 
     
    Hello three-to-six other people.
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from Ricer13 in Town of Salem #29 - Sign Up   
    Ok
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    Ptyrell reacted to jhatty8 in Town of Salem #28   
    my reason is vote > no vote
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from GoodLeftUndone in Town of Salem #28   
    Guys, this is exactly what eagles would do if he was evil. 100% he would predict that he would get blamed for ricer's death, kill ricer, then pretend to be the victim of a kill that was obviously meant to frame him. It couldn't be more clear!
     

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    Ptyrell reacted to Berocka in Town of Salem #28   
    I think we kill eagles and blame ricer 
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from eaglesfan036 in Town of Salem #28   
    Guys, this is exactly what eagles would do if he was evil. 100% he would predict that he would get blamed for ricer's death, kill ricer, then pretend to be the victim of a kill that was obviously meant to frame him. It couldn't be more clear!
     

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    Ptyrell reacted to woog in Town of Salem #28   
    Oh, you mean in the game.  Gotcha.
     
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    Ptyrell reacted to eaglesfan036 in Town of Salem #28   
    If you are evil, make sure to kill ricer and then frame me the next day
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    Ptyrell reacted to Gustav in ToS2: The Very First   
    "What in the wide world of sports is going on here?" says @GoodLeftUndone, the SBA household name who's the last elected MAYOR of Salem. He catches @rory, undoes the noose, and dies. Since stepping down from office, he's been moonlighting as a BODYGUARD, and not a particularly good one either. He's saved only one life this time around, and it's the POTION MASTER.
     
    There will be no lynching tonight, but we'll very likely be down to either zero or one Town, all of Coven, and an incredibly suspicious SOUL COLLECTOR. Ptyrell will transform tonight if he targets GLU, but Coven has the majority and knows who to kill. So, we get together and agree that there's no point in continuing.
     
     
    CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR WINNERS, THE COVEN!
     
     
    I'm going to come out and tell those of you still alive that the dead chat consensus is that this wasn't a good game, and I agree. But that's just what happens sometimes. I'd still like to run ToS2 again at some point in the future, because I'm unconvinced that this was a bad game because it was ToS2--there's a mix of things that I'll talk about on Discord if you're curious.
     
    But, even though you might not have had the greatest time on earth this time around, thank you as always for being part of it. I don't regret trying--it gave me something to do this weekend (one more negative tomorrow morning, and Covidstav can officially no longer be Covidstav!) and I hope all of you learned a thing or two about the rules and can get excited for a replay at some point in the future.
     
     
    Until next time!
     
     
    @Adrest245 - RETRIBUTIONIST
    @Advantage - SEER
    @Alex - PSYCHIC
    @Berocka - ILLUSIONIST
    @Doomsday - POISONER
    @eaglesfan036 - SHROUD
    @GoodLeftUndone - BODYGUARD
    @jhatty8 - PROSECUTOR
    @Lemorse7 - COVEN LEADER
    @omgitshim - VIGILANTE
    @Ptyrell - SOUL COLLECTOR
    @Ricer13 - ADMIRER
    @rory - POTION MASTER
    @Subject056 - TRAPPER
    @vincentlg2007 - SHERIFF
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    Ptyrell got a reaction from GoodLeftUndone in ToS2: The Very First   
    Too bad coven made one mistake.....
     
    I'm mayor
     
    @Gustav  to confirm.
     
    Rory: 5 (Alex, ptyrell x3, GLU)
    Ptyrell: 4 (lemorse, dooms, Rory, Berocka)
     
    Eat poop coven
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