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Is the flexibility of being able to have two players not enough that this one restriction is an issue? It's a precautionary measure and one that I think is fair and not too limiting.

What? No. Okay, let's say that the season difference has to be 4+. I'll just use myself as an example. So I have S50 Diana Maxwell. I create S54 Peanut Butter. In S54, Maxwell is a free agent and Peanut Butter gets drafted to Vasteras along with S54 Solas Newguy and S54 Dangles Newguy. Wouldn't you know it, Maxwell, Theo Axelsson (solas), and Asher Donovan (Dangles) are all free agents that season. We could all sign with Vasteras. Maxwell, Axelsson, and Donovan would all potentially have four seasons left in their careers at this time. I'm not saying it's the most likely of scenarios, but we've definitely seen teams (particularly Helsinki) draft three stud players in the same draft. Now imagine if they had in-their-prime players to just sign over and join them. EDIT: And the difference is that it's not just friends. It's literally yourself that you're dealing with. And because the three new draftees were just drafted, they are going to be relatively cheap for three seasons.

So maybe your older player signs with the team your younger player is on. In your scenario, it actually lines up perfectly to have exactly what you think wouldn't be a problem to happen.

I'm not surprised this came up, but I proposed a rule in my long post above. Disallow a player from being traded to a team with their other player within a season of signing in free agency.

Or rather than by TPE, have it be based on player age. For example, if the first wave of players were going to be allowed for the S52 draft, an S49 player could get it while an S46 player doesn't. It could be the case that the S46 player actually retires and recreates (let's say in S54) before they'd be chosen to create a second player, and then they'd have to wait until S57. Is that a bad thing? I don't know. Consider that if the S49 player had to wait until S54 for a second player, it would potentially delay when they could retire their S49 guy and recreate. I'm thinking about it too much though. Maybe simply a lottery would be best.

1. Restrictions on draft years Agreed on three years apart being a good mark. Definitely not two, but I think four would be alright as well. As for the discussion point, I don't even really understand what you're saying. Of course we wouldn't allow someone to retire their S50 player and recreate for S54 if they already have an S53 player. I don't even understand why any exception should ever be made regarding that rule. 2. Two players on the same team I agree with what is laid out here. Can be drafted to the same team, can be traded to the same team, but cannot sign in free agency. If a GM wants to trade for their other player, I would hope they'd give fair value. Obviously it can be a bit tricky, especially if it' an upcoming free agent. I think maybe we just have to trust the GMs on this. However, something I would like to add to this: a player cannot be traded to the team that their other player is on within a year of signing a contract in free agency. And this is for anyone, not just GMs. Otherwise it leaves too much room open for a sign-and-trade where the team facilitating it is getting something for free just to workaround the free agent restriction. 3. GM players Agreed. 4. Earning TPE Definitely agree with the way point tasks are handled. Each one applies to just one player, and you can do two per week, but not two welfare. Question: do VHL.com articles count for both? I can it either way; I'd like to say no, so long as it doesn't complicate things too much to have people signify which player they want the VHL.com article to go to. As for miscellaneous TPE, I had an idea in the other thread where one player is the secondary player. They would get no miscellaneous TPE aside from player-specific stuff (practice facility, awards, etc). I think if we did go a route like that, making it be changeable on a seasonal basis would be best; weekly I think would be too much. Unless job TPE just counts for both, I don't like the idea of having job TPE split it any way, be it dividing TPE from one or multiple jobs amongst two players. As I said, I think if miscellaneous TPE just goes to one player then it should be on a primary/secondary basis and job TPE isn't player specific, therefore ineligible for a secondary player. As for donations, it makes little difference to me which way we go. Same with Top GM reward TPE. 5. Implementation I like the idea of capping it, but I think instead of a first-come first-serve basis we should do a drawing. I also definitely like no initial expansion. Let's see where we're at after a draft or two. Work toward expanding when necessary. Something that I don't think I've seen brought up that I feel we could discuss now: what do we do about carryover? Everyone creating a second player for the first time: I would assume they get no carryover. Would we get the initial 30 TPE or no? Is it going to be based on your last retired player? Let's say down the line I retire Maxwell+another player without recreating. Am I eligible to claim carryover from both of them if I create two future players (three seasons apart, of course)? How would we track which players have/haven't had their TPE carried over?

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Damn my shooting percentage though

Not currently, but I recently bought and watch the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy. Hadn't seen Batman Begins since it was first in the theaters and tbh it was my favorite of the three. Not having seen it in such a long time is probably why I enjoyed it more than The Dark Knight which I had seen a few times. Batman Begins > The Dark Knight >>>> The Dark Knight Rises (not that it was bad, just severely outclassed)

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You all have Molholt to thank for your TPE, except hedgehog who can also thank himself for scoring a hat trick in Game 5 to make the score 4-3 in favor of the Legion. 5 TPE @hedgehog337 2 TPE @Green @DollarAndADream @StevenStamkos91 @evrydayimbyfuglien @Molholt @Higgins @eaglesfan036 @Jala @JPL @boubabi 1 TPE @boom @solas @Kendrick @Draper @Dangles13 @Velevra @fever95 @der meister @Phil

CORRECT ANSWERS Part I - Pick em' (Pick the correct winners of all three games for 1 TPE) 45 Legion 46 Legion 47 Legion Part II - Predict the Score (Predict the correct score of this game for 3 TPE) 47 Titans 3 vs Legion 4 Part III - Player Predictions (Predict the correct player for each category, 1 TPE for each correct answer) Series leader in points: 7 - Max Molholt Series leader in goals: 5 - Benjamin Zeptenbergs Series leader in assists: 5 - Max Molholt, LeAndre St. Pierre Results coming up.

Correctly predict the score for 3 uncapped TPE. 57 Ottawa Lynx vs Moscow Red Wolves

Correctly predict the winner of each game to earn 1 uncapped TPE. 52 Yukon Rush vs Bern Royals 53 Saskatoon Wild vs Bratislava Watchmen 54 Oslo Storm vs Brampton Blades

AK47 should be ineligible for awards this season tbhimo

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Damn good start.

But all those new players won't immediately be in the VHL. That's why I think we would want to be looking at expansion shortly after implementing this but we should get some idea if just how many players we are adding before we expand. Maybe 1-3 seasons after the first crop of second players

I agree with greg in that I don't think we should expand in conjunction with implementing this, but if we do go to two players, we should immediately be preparing for a potential expansion a couple seasons down the road.

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