twists 408 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) Time Means Change I was last in the VHL around August of 2020. While everything is still so familiar, many things are not. Sometimes we forget that the world goes on without us. We think things only change when we're around. Unfortunately, that's never the case. I want to touch on the old, the same, and the new in this article. VHLE My first reaction when scrolling over the forums was, "What the fuck is the VHLE? Did they make another league for no reason". Well, that's partially true. The VHLE is the middle ground between the M and the L. Sometimes a skater graduating from the VHLM isn't quite ready for the show. Whether their team is stacked in their position, or they went inactive, they have to go somewhere to play at a higher level. Back in my day, we just jumped straight from the VHLM to the VHL. If you only got to play 4th line minutes, then you were damn happy with that. There was always that inactive with 500ish TPE to his name lurking on every team. You know those guys that had more TPE than your average VHLM graduate, so they still had some worth to the team. Everyone had those, and it would have been much better if an active was taking that roster spot up instead. Enter the VHLE. It aimed to provide a league where people could compete with TPE that was outside of the limits of the VHLM, but weren't really ready for the VHL. Whether that's an active that doesn't quite have a roster spot on a VHL team, or an inactive that shouldn't be taking up the roster space. I see the advantage to this league, but in the end couldn't they have just kept things the original way without the need for a whole new league. Was it really that big of a deal? TPE Usage and Stats The first thing @Spartan said to me when I got back was, "Hey we completely re-did stats so your builds don't matter anymore". Oh yay. We barely understood how to make good players back then, better confuse us even more. I haven't looked too far into it, but what I've mostly figured out is: Stats don't go up even close to 99 anymore There's new HyBrId AtTrIbUtEs Well, I feel like stats go up to 99 in every game/sim ever so we should have continued that. Alas, they didn't consult my inactive ass. Taking a look at how the hybrid attributes work is pretty cool. It means cool new builds and more considerations need to be taken into account when spending your TPE. I like the new mechanic that hybrid attributes will bring. That being said, I'm still not a fan of the changes because not being able to level a skill/attribute to 99 is dumb. Honestly fuck it, lets go back to making @Josh play the games on NHL 09 and livestreaming each one. Trivia on the Portal Amazing. Whoever did this should be proud of themselves. It even automatically awards your TPE instantly when you guess right answer on the trivia. We need to do more things like this. Fantasy zone next? VHLM Pitches Yes, I know. The new way is 100% better than the old way and it makes much more sense to do it on the portal. However, I miss that super lame day after creating your very first player where GMs were flooding your notifications with offers. You were so excited. You got to read over the GM/AGM offer that was just barely customized to you. It was stupid and inefficient, but I always enjoyed it. You really felt like your player was a big deal, and it was going to totally matter where you signed. The new way is better, but the old way was more fun . No New Ways to Earn TPE I'm sure this league has existed off of graphics and media spots for its entire existence, but isn't it time for something new? I get the point of tasks is to build community content, but you can probably still do that in a more fun way. Maybe playing an hour or two of video games with a few other members could count for a point task. Sure, you wouldn't be generating new OC for the forum, but you'd be building that community that helps retention oh-so-much. Obviously that's a very hasty idea, but the point was to introduce new ways for members to interact with each other. Kachur Heh, if you know you know. The People It would be wrong of me not to mention all of the friends I made that are still here. There's some people that have gone inactive, but for the most part all of the awesome guys I was entering the league with are still here. It really is great that so much of the community has stuck together around these parts. I can't wait to do some dumb shit with all of you on discord. All of the people who have taken over the important admin roles in the league are very deserving of it. @frescoelmo is still doing some weird kinky shit with elmo, @Spartan is still doing...whatever he does, @dylanjj37 is still rating me 1/10, @Baozi is still horny, @McWolf is inactive, @Doomsday is still patriotic, @Gustav is still memeing, @jacobcarson877is a big weenie, and @Viper is still underage. I'm sure I forgot people so pls don't hate me. All together though, I couldn't really have asked for a better welcome back party. Thanks for listening to my Twists Talk, and hopefully the league will immediately change everything I just complained about. If they don't I'll just have to get drafted to the Moscow Menance in the first round, immediately go inactive for two and a half years, and then show up one day like nothing ever happened. I don't think poor little Spartan's heart could handle it. 1001 words. Edited February 24, 2023 by twists 5 words added lel Spartan, Subject056, jacobcarson877 and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,402 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, twists said: Maybe playing an hour or two of video games with a few other members could count for a point task Just record it, talk about the VHL sporadically and call it a podcast 5head twists 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted February 24, 2023 Commissioner Share Posted February 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, twists said: but in the end couldn't they have just kept things the original way without the need for a whole new league. Was it really that big of a deal? It kinda was actually. The main problem wasn’t just “low TPE players suck for awhile” it was also that there was physically no room for the players to go and we had piles of free agents with no homes because teams were too full to take them, especially those lower TPE players. “So just expand” I can hear you typing, and people did suggest that, but the problem is that we’ve already expanded to what I deem as stretching point. Every new team means more draftees needed: more recruitment more retention. And if that doesn’t happen the parity goes to shit and teams need to be contracted which is a messy procedure I never want to touch again. Therefore, the VHLE, which you could argue was a larger expansion so it should have the same issues BUT the irony is that removing a full league is easier than a couple of teams. Everyone in the VHLE has either a VHLM team, a VHL team, or both. So if we need to contract it people just get pushed to the league they now belong in TPE wise and nothing really gets messed with. 16 minutes ago, twists said: We barely understood how to make good players back then Oh we figured that out, figured it out to an extreme actually and broke everything. 16 minutes ago, twists said: Well, I feel like stats go up to 99 in every game/sim ever so we should have continued that. Technically they still can, or most of them can anyway, it’s just an incredibly horrible idea to do it. 16 minutes ago, twists said: You really felt like your player was a big deal, and it was going to totally matter where you signed. The new way is better, but the old way was more fun . That’s fair. Portal pitches do feel less personal even though the pitches were always just copy / paste jobs anyway. It’s a lot more efficient for everyone this way though. 16 minutes ago, twists said: Maybe playing an hour or two of video games with a few other members could count for a point task. I mean if you talk VHL and record it then it 100% can, that’s what my CoDCast used to be. Also we did add at least 1 earning method, I don’t believe Game Recaps existed before. twists 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 530 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, twists said: and @Viper is still underage. at least I am less underage now.. twists 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twists 408 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beketov said: It kinda was actually. The main problem wasn’t just “low TPE players suck for awhile” it was also that there was physically no room for the players to go and we had piles of free agents with no homes because teams were too full to take them, especially those lower TPE players. “So just expand” I can hear you typing, and people did suggest that, but the problem is that we’ve already expanded to what I deem as stretching point. Every new team means more draftees needed: more recruitment more retention. And if that doesn’t happen the parity goes to shut and teams need to be contracted which is a messy procedure I never want to touch again. Therefore, the VHLE, which you could argue was a larger expansion so it should have the same issues BUT the irony is that removing a full league is easier than a couple of teams. Everyone in the VHLE has either a VHLM team, a VHL team, or both. So if we need to contract it people just get pushed to the league they now belong in TPE wise and nothing really gets messed with. Oh we figured that out, figured it out to an extreme actually and broke everything. Technically they still can, or most of them can anyway, it’s just an incredibly horrible idea to do it. That’s fair. Portal pitches do feel less personal even though the pitches were always just copy / paste jobs anyway. It’s a lot more efficient for everyone this way though. I mean if you talk VHL and record it then it 100% can, that’s what my CoDCast used to be. Also we did add at least 1 warning method, I don’t believe Game Recaps existed before. These are all very good reasons for making the changes that you guys did. I just wanted to be a little annoying and say everything is bad lol. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted February 24, 2023 Commissioner Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, twists said: These are all very good reasons for making the changes that you guys did. I just wanted to be a little annoying and say everything is bad lol. I would expect nothing less haha. I just know that unless you know the context of things a lot of the changes in the past couple of years, and there have been many, would seem incredibly confusing. twists 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,169 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, twists said: Stats don't go up even close to 99 anymore except Strength which you can bring above 100 (see my player for example) but caps at 99 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,169 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, twists said: Kachur Heh, if you know you know. Enter Holiday season 2021... https://vhlforum.com/topic/5312-ban-thread/?do=findComment&comment=897879 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape 677 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, Spartan said: Just record it, talk about the VHL sporadically and call it a podcast 5head Interjecting every 5 minutes or so in my league game "(insert team here) is doing okay I think" Freest PT of my life twists and Spartan 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,402 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Grape said: Interjecting every 5 minutes or so in my league game "(insert team here) is doing okay I think" Freest PT of my life Damn imagine not playing league with the VHL folks, sad! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape 677 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Spartan said: Damn imagine not playing league with the VHL folks, sad! I never get the invite Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,169 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 @twists is there a specific reason you use the 'Mondaine' watch which is omnipresent on Swiss Railway stations? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobcarson877 2,532 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, twists said: 996 words. You're telling me you didn't have 4 more words for a multi-week claim? (regardless, good piece, and a fun recap of all of the things I've just gotten used to by now) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twists 408 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Daniel Janser said: @twists is there a specific reason you use the 'Mondaine' watch which is omnipresent on Swiss Railway stations? Obviously I'm swiss smh get good Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twists 408 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, jacobcarson877 said: You're telling me you didn't have 4 more words for a multi-week claim? (regardless, good piece, and a fun recap of all of the things I've just gotten used to by now) Lol I assumed being 4 words off wouldn't be a big deal. If it is I'll just say @jacobcarson877is a big weenie jacobcarson877 and Viper 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,402 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, twists said: Lol I assumed being 4 words off wouldn't be a big deal. If it is I'll just say @jacobcarson877is a big weenie WRITE THE 4 EXTRA WORDS. Fr though, it's 4 words, write em and we're chilling. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twists 408 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Spartan said: WRITE THE 4 EXTRA WORDS. Fr though, it's 4 words, write em and we're chilling. FINE I WROTE THEM Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,402 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, twists said: FINE I WROTE THEM Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 530 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Spartan said: WRITE THE 4 EXTRA WORDS. Fr though, it's 4 words, write em and we're chilling. It’s 1001 now, give my player his TPE. twists 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,402 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Viper said: It’s 1001 now, give my player his TPE. Don't you have your own player to worry about for TPE?? Get over 500 TPE and get back to me. twists 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 530 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Spartan said: Don't you have your own player to worry about for TPE?? Get over 500 TPE and get back to me. I’ve maxed earned this week, it is my turn to yell at others now! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,169 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Viper said: I’ve maxed earned this week, it is my turn to yell at others now! maybe if you stayed active for more than six weeks or so Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 530 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Daniel Janser said: maybe if you stayed active for more than six weeks or so unnecessary but understandable Josh 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,130 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Twisty boiiiii Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,276 Posted February 25, 2023 Head Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2023 @twists I do a beer reveal on social media every few days, come find me twists 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/133461-time-means-change/#findComment-974246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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