Spartan 4,405 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Well I suppose I have a lot to cover in this vhl.com. The E is dead, we've officially completed the transition of players from the E into the M as well. We had some challenges throughout the process and a rightful amount of constructive criticism from the M GMs, but I think that the way its concluded was equitable and fair to all the players and teams involved. Curious to see how the M transforms over the next few seasons with the higher cap and extended player careers. There'll be a big adjustment to how GMs manage their teams, and an increased importance on getting players later into their careers while remaining active. The VHL draft also concluded, and we made some moves to be aggressive and move up in the draft. We had 4 first rounders heading into this draft, with one first moved for FISTED ANALLY BY A CIRCUS MONKEY Analfist around the trade deadline. After that, two of our lower firsts were moved for 2oa, where we selected River Harrington to bolster our defense corps in the future as OSCB gets into his depreciation seasons. With Moscow unable to retain Syko and Reed retiring within a few seasons, Deadpanda was selected to hopefully become a long-time goalie of the future for the organization. Lastly, defenseman Cysteine was also selected to try to develop into a well-rounded depth defenseman in the future. The Syko situation probably took some folks by surprise, seeing me retire him pretty early in his career - with a full 4 seasons remaining in his career. Frankly, the goalie market is atrocious, and we've had a massive surge of young goalies join the league over the past few seasons. Teams are also even more egregiously tanking in greater number, and there just didn't seem like any team would have a need for a max cap goalie. With teams showing that you can make a playoff run with a 500-600 TPA goalie, why try to fit in a 1200+ TPA goalie at the expense of your skater core? Overall it's disappointing that goalie value has cratered so much, and I'm just ready to settle somewhere quietly with a defenseman, just like how I started my VHL career back in 2020. kirbithan, Thunder, Knight and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,663 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Damn, RIP all the high earning goalies! Definitely won't be creating between the pipes any time soon. Tis a shame it has skewed this way. Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leandrofg 1,159 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 We definitely have to pivot on the change we made. Goalie value has plummeted, but we should be able to find a middle ground. I'm sure the BoG has already debated this, but it could be time to introduce hybrid attributes for the goalies and find the right balance between that and the adjusted sliders. mattyIceman, Spartan and Corco 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyIceman 1,214 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 From starting jobs in the E and M going from a combined 16 positions to 10, and the amount of time a starter can stick with a team now in the M being longer, the goaltender position has become risky. Backup positions in the M become more important though because having a decent backup to relieve a starter when they're getting shelled, and for when a starter graduates to the VHL, the backup can assume starting role. It will settle itself in a few seasons time. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, mattyIceman said: From starting jobs in the E and M going from a combined 16 positions to 10, and the amount of time a starter can stick with a team now in the M being longer, the goaltender position has become risky. Backup positions in the M become more important though because having a decent backup to relieve a starter when they're getting shelled, and for when a starter graduates to the VHL, the backup can assume starting role. It will settle itself in a few seasons time. In a way it's good that goalie became so accessible for teams, I'm sure GM's are happy that they all have franchise cornerstones in net. I wonder how many of them will get paid or kept when those young goalies get off their ELC and keep max earning with how goalie performance is now though. It's a terrible environment for users with high TPA goalies, I think only myself and @MexicanCow123 can feel it but all those young goalies are in line too. mattyIceman and leandrofg 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanCow123 914 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 23 minutes ago, Spartan said: It's a terrible environment for users with high TPA goalies, I think only myself and @MexicanCow123 can feel it but all those young goalies are in line too. Yeah I had to go to Davos Gaikoku-hito 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape 679 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, MexicanCow123 said: Yeah I had to go to Davos Could be worse. Warsaw is right there rory and Gaikoku-hito 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,946 Posted October 8 Admin Share Posted October 8 We're 1 or 2 Summers/Teno type careers away from this all being an overreaction. Gaikoku-hito 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, Victor said: We're 1 or 2 Summers/Teno type careers away from this all being an overreaction. Weren't they before the sliders adjustment Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,946 Posted October 8 Admin Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, Spartan said: Weren't they before the sliders adjustment Summers was MVP twice afterwards. Teno playoff MVP maybe after. I mean even ignoring them, the cup was won by a top 5 goalies in TPA. Yeah Toronto did the long respected VHL tradition of goals > goalies but a) lost and b) just traded for the best performing goalie last season (again top 5 in TPA). You probably would have ended up on a contender again by S97 if not sooner. Even Summers had a gap between Davos and Warsaw where he was stuck on a rebuilding Davos. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 20 minutes ago, Victor said: Summers was MVP twice afterwards. Teno playoff MVP maybe after. I mean even ignoring them, the cup was won by a top 5 goalies in TPA. Yeah Toronto did the long respected VHL tradition of goals > goalies but a) lost and b) just traded for the best performing goalie last season (again top 5 in TPA). You probably would have ended up on a contender again by S97 if not sooner. Even Summers had a gap between Davos and Warsaw where he was stuck on a rebuilding Davos. Yeah maybe would have gotten somewhere but everywhere I'd have considered playing had young goalies. And frankly I've had enough of goalie, it sucks unless Simon blesses you. Which clearly, I am not Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_Di 1,022 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Great....and all this when I decided to make this player my highest earning TPE player to date lol We will see how it goes Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 3 minutes ago, Greg_Di said: Great....and all this when I decided to make this player my highest earning TPE player to date lol We will see how it goes I think you'll be fine with LA, they're a loyal group and I don't think they'll have the kind of cap issues Moscow is always dealing with. Some tough retirements out there Greg_Di 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory 1,916 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 5 hours ago, Spartan said: It's a terrible environment for users with high TPA goalies, I think only myself and @MexicanCow123 can feel it but all those young goalies are in line too. Disloyal users when teams aren't loyal to them Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, rory said: Disloyal users when teams aren't loyal to them The only time I left a team myself was when the GM was too IA to re-sign me before FA. Projection? rory 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1041105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted October 29 Author Share Posted October 29 On 10/8/2024 at 12:42 PM, Victor said: We're 1 or 2 Summers/Teno type careers away from this all being an overreaction. What about a Joseph Reed/Hugo Boss season making it an underreaction? 👁 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1042821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,946 Posted October 29 Admin Share Posted October 29 48 minutes ago, Spartan said: What about a Joseph Reed/Hugo Boss season making it an underreaction? 👁 Sample sizes Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/152078-delusional-408/#findComment-1042825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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