Gooningitup 1,290 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Career or single season? Career tho by the end of my career I wouldn't be shocked to break single season records Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-222648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,920 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Career tho by the end of my career I wouldn't be shocked to break single season records Those SBs gonna fall fast once Davos becomes good though. SB's are basically not that great to pass...probably means you spent time on a shit team. Gorlab started out his career with two 100 point seasons...not every team has that. Add this season which he likely hits 100 and that will be three consecutive 100 point seasons. I'm not sure there is anyone in the league that has started out like that. 293 points in first 198 games is not something every team has. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooningitup 1,290 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Those SBs gonna fall fast once Davos becomes good though. SB's are basically not that great to pass...probably means you spent time on a shit team. Gorlab started out his career with two 100 point seasons...not every team has that. Add this season which he likely hits 100 and that will be three consecutive 100 point seasons. I'm not sure there is anyone in the league that has started out like that. 293 points in first 198 games is not something every team has. Were not good now? Lol we were leading the league for awhile and I'm only improving. So is the rest of the team around us. The D is actually our strong point(me Richardson, Rubin, Zadorov). Yes great points is great im 30 points behind him as a defender with 10x the hits and well can't compare SB cuz of course I've got more as a d. They didn't pick wrong with me, I can't speak for Rubin. Not to mention points inflate in good teams with chemistry. He hasn't played for a single bad team his whole career(and I doubt he ever will). So unless he can put up those kinds of points on a bad team I'm not fazed. I've improved my numbers every year since entering the league despite not being a huge TPE whore. And now sit among a class of very few in the league(aka top in points, hits, shots blocked, and PIMs for my position). Hes obviously and elite point getter no denying that, however I've slowly bloosomed into an elite two way defender. And will only progress more as the years go on, see as I've now had more time to spend on my player. My point is Davos most certainly does not regret picking me and I don't know many teams who wouldn't want to have my player. I'm not bashing his accomplishments I'm just defending my teams choice in myself and back it up. Edited May 30, 2015 by Gooningitup Kendrick 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Don't worry Gooning we know your value in Davos. Chris stands up for his players and former players a lot, sometimes too many times, he didn't mean any harm by it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,920 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Were not good now? Lol we were leading the league for awhile and I'm only improving. So is the rest of the team around us. The D is actually our strong point(me Richardson, Rubin, Zadorov). Yes great points is great im 30 points behind him as a defender with 10x the hits and well can't compare SB cuz of course I've got more as a d. They didn't pick wrong with me, I can't speak for Rubin. Not to mention points inflate in good teams with chemistry. He hasn't played for a single bad team his whole career(and I doubt he ever will). So unless he can put up those kinds of points on a bad team I'm not fazed. I've improved my numbers every year since entering the league despite not being a huge TPE whore. And now sit among a class of very few in the league(aka top in points, hits, shots blocked, and PIMs for my position). Hes obviously and elite point getter no denying that, however I've slowly bloosomed into an elite two way defender. And will only progress more as the years go on, see as I've now had more time to spend on my player. My point is Davos most certainly does not regret picking me and I don't know many teams who wouldn't want to have my player. I'm not bashing his accomplishments I'm just defending my teams choice in myself and back it up. Certainly not bashing you. My point was SBs do fall off when you are on better teams. That happens for everyone. In the last 3 seasons: S41 DAV (worst of the three seasons)....Komarov averaged 2.01 SB per game. S42 DAV (second worst of the three seasons)....Komarov averaged 1.83 SB per game. S43 DAV (by far the best of the three)....Komarov averages 1.65 SB per game. Davos didn't do wrong picking you. Simply defending the notion that 3 Moons is essentially run of the mill offensive player. Like I said, I'm not sure anyone in the league had 3 100 point seasons to start their career. That isn't a dig at you as you are not an offensive defender. Not taking penalties to a lot of people is worth more than hits. Not saying I agree with that, but in a simulator, some people feel that way. As for scoring on bad teams...that actually isn't always the case. A lot of guys struggle when there is too much talent on a team and blossom when you are one of the only good players (see Tyrone Williams in Vasty). Both were great picks I'd say. Davos got a very solid two-way defender who could blossom into a consistently elite guy, while New York got a 100 point center that can anchor a top six line as an efficient and disciplined player. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,920 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Don't worry Gooning we know your value in Davos. Chris stands up for his players and former players a lot, sometimes too many times, he didn't mean any harm by it. Reminds me of someone who used to GM me in Helsinki Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagger 2,722 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Not taking penalties to a lot of people is worth more than hits. Phil 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Reminds me of someone who used to GM me in Helsinki Your player sucked ass, is that better? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooningitup 1,290 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Certainly not bashing you. My point was SBs do fall off when you are on better teams. That happens for everyone. In the last 3 seasons: S41 DAV (worst of the three seasons)....Komarov averaged 2.01 SB per game. S42 DAV (second worst of the three seasons)....Komarov averaged 1.83 SB per game. S43 DAV (by far the best of the three)....Komarov averages 1.65 SB per game. Davos didn't do wrong picking you. Simply defending the notion that 3 Moons is essentially run of the mill offensive player. Like I said, I'm not sure anyone in the league had 3 100 point seasons to start their career. That isn't a dig at you as you are not an offensive defender. Not taking penalties to a lot of people is worth more than hits. Not saying I agree with that, but in a simulator, some people feel that way. As for scoring on bad teams...that actually isn't always the case. A lot of guys struggle when there is too much talent on a team and blossom when you are one of the only good players (see Tyrone Williams in Vasty). Both were great picks I'd say. Davos got a very solid two-way defender who could blossom into a consistently elite guy, while New York got a 100 point center that can anchor a top six line as an efficient and disciplined player. I feel my SB have also dropped more solely because I've tried to round my game out more (see this season where I've just exploded offensively already beating last two years almost combined). If I stuck with building the way I wanted too 100% id likely be much high SB. However we lacked offense so I helped step up best I can without sacrificing the way I want to play. And if people didn't expect PIMS from me they haven't read my username or done any research on me lol my goals to be a brusing defender like Edwin basically Edited May 30, 2015 by Gooningitup Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,920 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I feel my SB have also dropped more solely because I've tried to round my game out more (see this season where I've just exploded offensively already beating last two years almost combined). If I stuck with building the way I wanted too 100% id likely be much high SB. However we lacked offense so I helped step up best I can without sacrificing the way I want to play. And if people didn't expect PIMS from me they haven't read my username or done any research on me lol my goals to be a brusing defender like Edwin basically Perhaps..just that even the players with 99 defense block a lot less shots on good teams. And I don't mean there is anything wrong with you having hits and PIM's..just that someone like Gorlab may value discipline to be on the ice more, so I don't think it's a knock on him to get hits. If he had more hits, he would probably have less points due to being in the box more. That's why it's hard to call anyone one-dimensional here, because defense is measured by hits which also can have a negative impact. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,133 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 ...so.... S45 is the best draft class ever then? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,196 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Get 5 Labattes then you good Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 ...so.... S45 is the best draft class ever then?yeah Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Get 5 Labattes then you goodI don't know anyone with 5, sorry. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Boychuk had 103 points in his first VHL season, and this was on a Calgary team that wasn't much more than Boychuk, and a Boychuk with only a few hundred TPE or less as I don't remember what I was at. Definitely benefited him being on a worse team. As the Wranglers got better for those few seasons, his production declined while being surrounded by better talent in his early career. He went from 103, to 91, then down to 66 in his first 3 seasons. Then to a great Quebec team he got 103 points again. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball 453 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I had 404 hits back before it was cool. I am the best defenseman from the S40 draft class Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball 453 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I had 404 hits back before it was cool. I am the best defenseman from the S40 draft class Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball 453 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 So nice I had to say it twice Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/20466-is-the-season-40-draft-class-the-best-ever/page/2/#findComment-223954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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